[Openmcl-devel] keys

Joakim Sandgren joakim at joakimsandgren.com
Tue Apr 7 21:14:38 UTC 2009


Normaùlly on my now famous french keyboard, I do exactly that : option- 
n, space and that produce a tilde (in all other apps on a french  
system but pro tools (audio app) that does not support `´¨^~ etc...
the ctrl-q, option-n, space crashes the ide (the console with a lots  
of red text).
the menuitem Special caracters also crash the ide in the same fashion...
the "only" way I found out, for now, to do this is to switch to an  
american keyboard, then type shift-`. This produce a small tilde (x2DC  
as explained Dickison - the "wrong" tilde then... ;-)) and this works...
on leopard you have acces to, under your "keyboard"-menu (if you  
want), a (in french) palette de caractères. this is actually the same  
thing/window that is called by the Special Caraters menu item in the  
IDE. you can double click to insert a sign or push the button "insert"  
to insert and both crashes the IDE...
In fact any (< > = - etc) sign inserted from this palette crashes the  
IDE...
SIncerely
Joakim

Le 7 avr. 09 à 20:26, Gary Byers a écrit :

> I've been playing around with enabling the input menu, adding various
> input sources/keyboard layouts, toggling between them, and using
> Keyboard Viewer to see how different characters are generated on
> different keyboards.  I have to admit that I don't know what the
> correct way to enter a tilde on a French keyboard is. (In that
> keyboard layout, option-n is a dead key which can combine with other
> characters to produce tilde-accented variants of those characters; the
> sequence "option-n, space" seems to produce a raw tilde, but that may
> not be the best way to do it.)
>
> As of r11903 in the trunk, one of the issues that's prevented some
> parts of this (including dead key handling) from working for the last
> year or so is at least worked around, so it's possible to do "ctrl-q,
> option-n, space" (where the "q" is to the right of the caps lock key
> in the French layout) to insert a tilde.  That's awkward enough that
> Daniel's suggestion of using Ukelele to generate a custom keyboard
> layout may be attractive.
>
> (With that workaround in the trunk, it's also possible to use the
> "Special Characters ..." option on the Edit menu or other means to
> open the "Character Palette", hunt around for tilde (in  
> "Punctuation"),
> select it, and click on the "insert" button.  Again, Daniel's  
> suggestion
> seems attractive.)
>
>
> On Tue, 7 Apr 2009, Joakim Sandgren wrote:
>
>> if i hit option-n in ukelele the output inspector show U+007E...  
>> seems to be the right key then ?.. J
>> Le 7 avr. 09 à 15:00, Daniel Dickison a écrit :
>>
>>> Well a plain standalone 'tilde' as used by FORMAT is a different  
>>> character than the tilde accent character.  On my US keyboard,  
>>> typing option-shift-n gives me the character #\Small_Tilde (#x2DC)  
>>> while the real "Tilde" (#x7E) is typed by Shift-backtick (the key  
>>> to the left of the "1").  Is it possible that option-n is giving  
>>> you #x2DC instead of #x7E?
>>> I'm not sure exactly what your keyboard is doing, but Mac OS X  
>>> lets you customize keyboard layouts via an XML file, and there's a  
>>> nice GUI front end to this functionality called Ukulele:
>>>  http://scripts.sil.org/cms/scripts/page.php?site_id=nrsi&id=Ukelele
>>> You might find it useful to create a "Lisp Layout" which makes it  
>>> easier to type the various Common Lisp special characters.  (I  
>>> have one that modifies Dvorak to makes it easier to type  
>>> paretheses, tilde, # etc.)
>>> On Apr 7, 2009, at 3:29 AM, Joakim Sandgren wrote:
>>>> I'm working on ccl IDE 1.3 32bits,
>>>> just tried c-q and then option n to have a tilde but that just  
>>>> gave me the console with a lots of red text...
>>>> Joakim
>>>> Joakim Sandgren
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>>
>>
>> Joakim Sandgren
>> joakim sandgren musik
>> 42, rue de Maubeuge
>> 75009 Paris
>> France
>> +33 (0)1 45 26 43 90
>> info at joakimsandgren.com
>> http://www.joakimsandgren.com
>>




Joakim Sandgren
joakim sandgren musik
42, rue de Maubeuge
75009 Paris
France
+33 (0)1 45 26 43 90
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