[Openmcl-devel] bad impressions to Lisp newbies

Gary Byers gb at clozure.com
Sat Apr 25 23:12:26 PDT 2009


Please make more sense.


On Sat, 25 Apr 2009, Alexander Repenning wrote:

> The golden rule of user interface design 101 is that if multiple users are 
> confused about something there is usually no point for the designer of the 
> interface to claim that he or she does not find it confusing. People are 
> trying to help you and you are basically belittling these comments.
>
> I  did not make that particular comment regarding the trac page. As I said 
> before, I find the site as a whole a bit confusing not any particular page. 
> Look, what most of us want to do is to get some general information, download 
> the app, access the source, and get some support. This is pretty basic stuff. 
> It is great that you offer all of these pages/sites:
>
> http://trac.clozure.com  http://ccl.clozure.com http://svn.clozure.com 
> http://openmcl.clozure.com http://www.clozure.com/
>
> I am not even sure I found them all. The issue is quite simply that there is 
> NO SINGLE NAVIGATION that is common to all these sites. Even the most simple 
> navigation tab structure (e.g., Home, Download, Support, ...) shared between 
> the sites would work wonders. Make it a frame it you must. Finding the right 
> link somewhere on some page to move from one site to another IS confusing.
>
> This may not be the worlds greatest example but it does feature the kind of 
> navigation that the Clozure site is missing: http://www.openoffice.org
>
> Thanks but no thanks to the dancing girls ;-) but navigation would be nice.
>
> Alex
>
>
>
>
> On Apr 25, 2009, at 10:32 PM, R. Matthew Emerson wrote:
>
>> The Trac page (http://trac.clozure.com/ccl) seems pretty clear to me.
>> There is a table on that page in the section called "Getting Clozure
>> CL"  that includes links to archives for all the platforms.  Maybe I
>> should put some animated dancing girls or something next to it so that
>> it stands out better.
>
> Prof. Alexander Repenning
>
> University of Colorado
> Computer Science Department
> Boulder, CO 80309-430
>
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>
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