[Openmcl-devel] AppleScript

Gary Byers gb at clozure.com
Tue May 12 15:19:04 UTC 2009


There was an F-Script<->OpenMCL interface once upon a time:

<http://www.clozure.com/pipermail/openmcl-devel/2003-February/004561.html>

There was also a way of compiling and executing AppleScript (without running
an external program.)  I suspect that the stuff that I'm thinking about
is what's described at:

<http://developer.apple.com/documentation/Carbon/Reference/Open_Scripti_Architecture/Reference/reference.html>

I don't think that there was ever any kind of high-level interface to this
in CCL (at least none that I know of), but IIRC it wasn't -that- bad to just
use the FFI (for some value of "not bad".)


On Tue, 12 May 2009, Steve Núñez wrote:

> Thanks.
>
> Has anyone looked at F-Script? I discovered it while looking around for ways
> I might script this application. I don't have any experience with it, but it
> looks interesting:
>
>    http://www.fscript.org/
>
>    - Steve
>
> On 12/05/09 12:00 AM, "Daniel Dickison" <danieldickison at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I'm the author of cl-applescript, and you're right that it has been
>> pretty much abandoned (the project I had originally wrote that library
>> for went defunct).  However, I believe it still works if you only have
>> simple AppleScript needs, with the following caveats:
>> 1. All AS is executed using the osascript command line interface,
>> which means:
>> a. You can't construct AppleEvents programatically (you need to
>> construct script strings).
>> b. Every call has to compile the AppleScript from scratch, which is
>> slow.
>> c. The entire return value is stored as a string before parsing, so
>> you wouldn't want to do huge queries.
>> 2. Parsing dictionaries hasn't been implemented.
>>
>> The patch for CCL bug 216 should no longer be necessary if you're
>> using CCL 1.3 (I should update that page).  If you would like to use
>> the library but you need dictionary parsing, I think it should be
>> pretty easy to implement and I'll be happy to help you with that.
>>
>> That said, Scripting Bridge is probably the way to go.  You'll be
>> writing Cocoa code (presumably via the Clozure Objective-C bridge),
>> but I believe you can use it to script any application, regardless of
>> whether it's Cocoa or Carbon.
>>
>> Daniel
>>
>>
>> On May 11, 2009, at 4:40 AM, Steve Núñez wrote:
>>
>>> G¹Day Gentlemen,
>>>
>>> What¹s the Œstate of the art¹ for interfacing with Carbon
>>> applications exposing only an AppleScript interface? I found one
>>> possibility mentioned here:
>>>
>>> http://www.clozure.com/pipermail/openmcl-devel/2008-October/
>>> 008618.html
>>>
>>> But this seems applicable only to Cocoa applications. There¹s also
>>> cl-applescript:
>>>
>>> http://common-lisp.net/project/cl-applescript/
>>>
>>> But that project appears to have been abandoned. I¹m trying to
>>> determine the feasibility of heavily customising MS Entourage, and
>>> would like to use CCL for most of the heavy lifting.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>     - Steve
>>>
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