[Openmcl-devel] Suggestions for IDE

Alexander Repenning ralex at cs.colorado.edu
Tue Apr 27 20:51:18 UTC 2010


at the moment a good deal of effort is going into making the current IDE and additional APIs including Cocoa, OpenGL work in a cross platform way (Macs and PCs). Probably best to hold off some of these explorations and stabilize the cross platform aspect. Once that is completed this community should only be able to develop some of these fine tools but make them work on Macs and PCs.

We are using the IDE on Macs and PCs pretty extensively. Still pretty crude but workable. The one thing I do miss from Fred is the get callers command.

one step at a time,  Alex


On Apr 25, 2010, at 6:52 PM, John Higgins wrote:

> I use CCL frequently and given that 1.5 was just released i was
> disappointed to see that the IDE remains pretty much the same.
> I know that some of you use it but i find it inferior even to SLIME.
> So here are some suggestions for improvement:
> 
> Syntax hilighting beyond the level currently seen. Colorschemes
> should be fully controlled by the user.
> 
> Presentations in the REPL. I'm tired of typing (inspect *) all the time.
> 
> Usable completion with popup menu and fuzzy matching.
> 
> Improve the inspector at least to the level of the slime
> inspector (being able to manipulate packages/symbols/functions/methods/slots)
> and possibly add an auto-refresh option. Possibly embed a mini inspector
> just for instance slots in the REPL.
> 
> Better way to show documentation. Currently the only option is jump
> to definition and hyperspec.
> 
> Compiler warnings/notes should be hyperlinked to the source buffers. 
> One should be able to see them all in one place/window.
> 
> Debugger should be in separate window with proper graphical ui.
> 
> Better tools for CLOS. You have full Cocoa at your disposal, you
> could do class/generic function browsers, method combination visualizers
> and all sorts of xref addons.
> 
> Better debugging tools. Heap utilization/profiling helpers could be done in
> graphical way in the IDE. 
> 
> I would love to see any of these implemented, and would be willing to
> pay for some. It is a sad state of affairs when slime remains the
> best way to use ccl.
> 
> Regards,
> John
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Prof. Alexander Repenning

University of Colorado
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