[Openmcl-devel] CCL on Apple Silicon

[Bruce O'Neel]

Wow, this is excellent!

On 2024-04-08T01:31:04.000+02:00, David Cooper
<david.cooper at genworks.com> wrote:

> This is the most welcome news I've heard in a
> while!  Congratulations and  Godspeed!
> 
> Dave Cooper
> 
> ---- On Sun, 07 Apr 2024 16:00:18 -0400 RME at CLOZURE.COM wrote ----
> 
>>>   On Apr 7, 2024, at 3:49 AM, peter <p2.edoc at gmail.com> wrote: 
>>>   
>>>   Am I correct in concluding the Clozure Common Lisp will not run
>>  on Apple Silicon under any guise. So not natively, under
>>  Rosetta-2, in virtualisation (do any support X86 emulation) under
>>  Parallels, UTM, VMware Fusion, VirtualBox on Apple Silicon? 
>>>   
>>>   Hence for those that want to keep going with their Clozure Lisp
>>  but on current Apple systems (ie. Apple Silicon) it'll have to be
>>  via Screen Sharing to an 2018 Intel Mac Mini or such. 
>>>   
>>>   That or move on to SBCL et al and rewrite code as far as viable.
>>  For those addicted to the CCL Hemlock UI, get used to Emacs-Slime.
>>  
>>>   
>>>   Meanwhile praying that Clozure breathes again, and cursing the
>>  INT instruction void. Or sticking with an unsupported Intel Mac,
>>  or abandon Apple and morph over to the WinTel world. 
>>>   
>>>   Is this how things stand today for those whose digital life has
>>  been heavily CCL based. Somehow I never got any message saying the
>>  CCL on current Apple computers (Apple Silicon) is a complete and
>>  indefinite no-go (unless there's some radical phoenix action). 
>>>   
>>>   I.e. CCL is effectively dead and buried on current Macs, full
>>  stop. 
>>>   
>>>   Crossing fingers and hoping to be shot down in flames. 
>>  
>>  I recently decided to leave my current full-time job, and I’ll
>>  be working on CCL again. This is probably an imprudent thing for
>>  me to do, but you only live once, right? 
>>  
>>  I don’t want to share details (funding, etc.) with the whole
>>  world, but it’s looking like I’ll be able to work about
>>  half-time on an ARM64 port. Please write me privately if you want
>>  to talk about supporting that ARM64 work. 
>>  
>>  I've worked on CCL for quite a few years, and I did the 32-bit x86
>>  port, so I have experience in this area. I’m not as good a
>>  hacker as Gary Byers, but then again, few people are. 
>>  
>>  There are lots of issues and challenges ahead, but I’m not ready
>>  to have a funeral for CCL just yet.

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