<div>Hi,<br></div><div><br></div><div>On MacOS with ccl 1.12.1-5 if I run the following commands <br></div><div><br></div><p style="margin: 0px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal;"><span class="colour" style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0)"><span class="font" style="font-family:Menlo"><span class="size" style="font-size:11px"><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures">(load "~/quicklisp/setup.lisp")</span></span></span></span><br></p><p style="margin: 0px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal;"><span class="colour" style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0)"><span class="font" style="font-family:Menlo"><span class="size" style="font-size:11px"><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures">(ql:quickload "drakma")</span></span></span></span><br></p><p style="margin: 0px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal;"><span class="colour" style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0)"><span class="font" style="font-family:Menlo"><span class="size" style="font-size:11px"><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures">(ql:quickload "climacs")</span></span></span></span><br></p><p style="margin: 0px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal;"><span class="colour" style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0)"><span class="font" style="font-family:Menlo"><span class="size" style="font-size:11px"><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures">(ql:quickload "clim-examples")</span></span></span></span><br></p><p style="margin: 0px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; min-height: 13px;"><br></p><div><br></div><div>I get<br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><p style="margin: 0px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal;"><span class="colour" style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0)"><span class="font" style="font-family:Menlo"><span class="size" style="font-size:11px"><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures">% ls ~/.slime/fasl/2.26.1/clozure-version_1.12.1_\(v1.12.1-5-g110c2306\)_darwinx8664-darwin-x86-64</span></span></span></span><br></p><p style="margin: 0px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal;"><span class="colour" style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0)"><span class="font" style="font-family:Menlo"><span class="size" style="font-size:11px"><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures">backend.dx64fsl<span style="white-space:pre" class="Apple-tab-span"> </span>gray.dx64fsl<span style="white-space:pre" class="Apple-tab-span"> </span>packages.dx64fsl</span></span></span></span><br></p><p style="margin: 0px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal;"><span class="colour" style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0)"><span class="font" style="font-family:Menlo"><span class="size" style="font-size:11px"><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures">ccl.dx64fsl<span style="white-space:pre" class="Apple-tab-span"> </span>match.dx64fsl<span style="white-space:pre" class="Apple-tab-span"> </span>rpc.dx64fsl</span></span></span></span><br></p><p style="margin: 0px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal;"><span class="colour" style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0)"><span class="font" style="font-family:Menlo"><span class="size" style="font-size:11px"><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures">contrib<span style="white-space:pre" class="Apple-tab-span"> </span>metering.dx64fsl<span style="white-space:pre" class="Apple-tab-span"> </span>swank.dx64fsl</span></span></span></span><br></p><p style="margin: 0px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal;"><span class="colour" style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0)"><span class="font" style="font-family:Menlo"><span class="size" style="font-size:11px"><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures">% ls ~/.cache/common-lisp/ccl-1.12-f98-macosx-x64<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span></span><br></p><p style="margin: 0px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal;"><span class="colour" style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0)"><span class="font" style="font-family:Menlo"><span class="size" style="font-size:11px"><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures">Users</span></span></span></span><br></p><p style="margin: 0px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal;"><span class="colour" style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0)"><span class="font" style="font-family:Menlo"><span class="size" style="font-size:11px"><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures">% ls ~/.cache/common-lisp/ccl-1.12-f98-macosx-x64/ <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span></span><br></p><p style="margin: 0px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal;"><span class="colour" style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0)"><span class="font" style="font-family:Menlo"><span class="size" style="font-size:11px"><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures">Users</span></span></span></span><br></p><p style="margin: 0px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal;"><span class="colour" style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0)"><span class="font" style="font-family:Menlo"><span class="size" style="font-size:11px"><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures">% <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span></span><br></p><div ><br></div><div >The .local one must come from some linux system I run.<br></div><div ><br></div><div >cheers<br></div><div ><br></div><div >bruce<br></div><div ><br></div><div class="ik_mail_quote"><div>On 2022-04-04T19:07:19.000+02:00, Robert Goldman <rpgoldman@sift.info> wrote:</div><blockquote class="ws-ng-quote"><div class="ws-ng-mail-style--497021eJzz9HPyjwAABGYBgQ"><div style="font-family:sans-serif;"><div class="" style="white-space:normal;">
<p dir="auto">Interesting. I (obviously) use ASDF, but I do not see a <code style="margin:0 0;padding:0 0.25em;border-radius:3px;background-color:#F7F7F7;">common-lisp/systems</code> directory in <code style="margin:0 0;padding:0 0.25em;border-radius:3px;background-color:#F7F7F7;">$HOME/.local/share</code>. What is in that directory for you? And what OS are you using, Windows, Linux, or MacOS?</p>
<p dir="auto">Thanks,<br>
R</p>
<p dir="auto">On 4 Apr 2022, at 1:22, Bruce O'Neel wrote:</p>
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<div>Hi all,<br></div>
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<div>The list of commands in my shell script to clean up when I switch versions with quicklisp is:<br></div>
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<p style="margin:0px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;font-stretch:normal;"><span class="" style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);"><span class="" style="font-family:Menlo;"><span class="" style="font-size:11px;"><span style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures;">rm -rf $HOME/.cache/common-lisp</span></span></span></span><br></p>
<p style="margin:0px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;font-stretch:normal;"><span class="" style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);"><span class="" style="font-family:Menlo;"><span class="" style="font-size:11px;"><span style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures;">rm -rf $HOME/.local/share/common-lisp/systems/</span></span></span></span><br></p>
<p style="margin:0px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;font-stretch:normal;"><span class="" style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);"><span class="" style="font-family:Menlo;"><span class="" style="font-size:11px;"><span style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures;">rm -rf $HOME/.slime</span></span></span></span><br></p>
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<div><span class="" style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);"><span class="" style="font-family:Menlo;"><span class="" style="font-size:11px;"><span style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures;">The .slime one is newish but must be because I have chosen a new package. The list is empirical. It works on my old MacOS system with ccl and sbcl, as well as my assorted linux systems.</span></span></span></span><br></div>
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<div><span class="" style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);"><span class="" style="font-family:Menlo;"><span class="" style="font-size:11px;"><span style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures;">If I run this and then reload my Quicklisp packages they all recompile from scratch. Which btw is the only way that I trust things.</span></span></span></span><br></div>
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<div><span class="" style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);"><span class="" style="font-family:Menlo;"><span class="" style="font-size:11px;"><span style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures;">cheers</span></span></span></span><br></div>
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<div><span class="" style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);"><span class="" style="font-family:Menlo;"><span class="" style="font-size:11px;"><span style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures;">bruce</span></span></span></span><br></div>
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<div>On 2022-04-04T01:03:28.000+02:00, <a class="defaultMailLink" href="mailto:dbm@refined-audiometrics.com">dbm@refined-audiometrics.com</a> <<a class="defaultMailLink" href="mailto:dbm@refined-audiometrics.com">dbm@refined-audiometrics.com</a>> wrote:</div>
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<pre style="white-space:normal;">HI Paul,<br><br>I don’t know if this is the source of your problems, but ASDF keeps a cache copy of previously compiled Lisp files. There is a separate folder for each version of Lisp system that you use. Changing ASDF versions does not appear to have any effect on which cache folder is being used.<br><br>When making such large changes to your environment, I always discard the contents of the cache folder (in my case ~/.cache and below), before attempting the load up with a new environment.<br><br>- DM<br><br></pre>
<blockquote class="">On Apr 3, 2022, at 2:35 PM, Paul Krueger <<a class="defaultMailLink" href="mailto:plkrueger@comcast.net">plkrueger@comcast.net</a>> wrote:<br>
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I’m running Clozure Common Lisp Version 1.12.1 (v1.12.1) DarwinX8664 that I built from scratch a few months ago.<br>
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I understand that asdf and quickload are included as part of the distribution.<br>
CCL says it is running version 3.3.4 of asdf:<br>
? (asdf:asdf-version)<br>
“3.3.4"<br>
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That has worked just fine when using quickload for both things that I have created previously myself that are located in ~/common-lisp/…<br>
and for loading other packages supported by quickload.<br>
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However when trying to load a new system that is defined in ~/common-lisp/pkclide/pkclide.asd I get the following:<br>
? (asdf:find-system "pkclide")<br>
<blockquote class="">Error: Error Component "pkclide" not found<br>
While executing: (:INTERNAL (ASDF/SYSTEM:FIND-SYSTEM (STRING))), in process Listener(4).<br>
Type cmd-. to abort, cmd-\ for a list of available restarts.<br>
Type :? for other options.<br></blockquote>
1 (truename "~/common-lisp/pkclide/pkclide.asd")<br>
#P"/Users/paul/common-lisp/pkclide/pkclide.asd"<br>
1<br>
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I wanted to test to see if I had the same problem with SBCL, so I first made sure that I had the latest quickload installation (which includes an asdf.lisp file to use if no other one is available). When I start SBCL and load quickload in the recommended way, I end up with asdf version 3.3.1. As it turns out, this has no difficulty finding new systems that are in ~/common-lisp/…<br>
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I tried to blow away some cached things, but that made no difference. However I’m pretty sure that I did not get all the right things because I can still load older systems defined in that same ~/common-lisp/ directory (“older” meaning those that were quickload'ed sometime previous to my latest upgrade of CCL).<br>
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I next tried to load the same 3.3.1 version of asdf.lisp that SBCL is using into CCL, but there were all sorts of conflicts with the existing 3.3.4 version.<br>
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I next downloaded the 3.3.5 asdf.lisp and loaded it into both CCL and SBCL … AND GOT EXACTLY THE SAME RESULTS! It was found in SBCL, but not in CCL.<br>
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So apparently it isn’t a problem with one version of asdf or another, it is something different about how asdf runs in the CCL environment vs. the SBCL environment.<br>
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After spending more than a day working on this and getting no closer to a solution, I have a basically one question for anyone who knows more than I do about this stuff: What the heck am I missing here? It almost seems like it must have something to do with what is cached in the two environments although it seems strange that this would prohibit finding something that is completely new in the ~/common-lisp directory.<br>
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Any and all suggestions for the next thing to try are appreciated ...</blockquote>
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