I always hate saying "it works for me", because that means I don't know the problem, but it does. See: http://www.openmcl.com/Doc/ch02s01.html http://www.openmcl.com/TmpCVS/index.html http://clozure.com/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/?cvsroot=OpenMCL-0.14 What page were you trying to follow the link from? -- Dan Knapp