[Openmcl-devel] bad impressions to Lisp newbies
alms at clozure.com
Sun Apr 26 20:06:51 PDT 2009
FWIW, I agree with Alex that our websites are unnecessarily
confusing. I (we) haven't had time to address that, but I hope that
we can improve them in the future.
On Apr 26, 2009, at 2:12 AM, Gary Byers wrote:
> Please make more sense.
> On Sat, 25 Apr 2009, Alexander Repenning wrote:
>> The golden rule of user interface design 101 is that if multiple
>> users are
>> confused about something there is usually no point for the designer
>> of the
>> interface to claim that he or she does not find it confusing.
>> People are
>> trying to help you and you are basically belittling these comments.
>> I did not make that particular comment regarding the trac page. As
>> I said
>> before, I find the site as a whole a bit confusing not any
>> particular page.
>> Look, what most of us want to do is to get some general
>> information, download
>> the app, access the source, and get some support. This is pretty
>> basic stuff.
>> It is great that you offer all of these pages/sites:
>> http://trac.clozure.com http://ccl.clozure.com http://
>> http://openmcl.clozure.com http://www.clozure.com/
>> I am not even sure I found them all. The issue is quite simply that
>> there is
>> NO SINGLE NAVIGATION that is common to all these sites. Even the
>> most simple
>> navigation tab structure (e.g., Home, Download, Support, ...)
>> shared between
>> the sites would work wonders. Make it a frame it you must. Finding
>> the right
>> link somewhere on some page to move from one site to another IS
>> This may not be the worlds greatest example but it does feature the
>> kind of
>> navigation that the Clozure site is missing: http://
>> Thanks but no thanks to the dancing girls ;-) but navigation would
>> be nice.
>> On Apr 25, 2009, at 10:32 PM, R. Matthew Emerson wrote:
>>> The Trac page (http://trac.clozure.com/ccl) seems pretty clear to
>>> There is a table on that page in the section called "Getting Clozure
>>> CL" that includes links to archives for all the platforms. Maybe I
>>> should put some animated dancing girls or something next to it so
>>> it stands out better.
>> Prof. Alexander Repenning
>> University of Colorado
>> Computer Science Department
>> Boulder, CO 80309-430
>> vCard: http://www.cs.colorado.edu/~ralex/AlexanderRepenning.vcf
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