[Openmcl-devel] Contrib: list-definitions.lisp

[Glen Foy]

Excellent suggestions, Herr Joswig.

These are clearly issues that the Clozure engineers and interested  
members of the list should bat around.  As you suggest, getting it  
right now is important.

-- Glen


On Aug 17, 2009, at 3:58 PM, Rainer Joswig wrote:

> Hi Glen,
>
> that's a very useful contribution - Vielen Dank!
>
>   I'll have to try it out some more...
>
> I have a few remarks/suggestions. I'll see a slight conflict between a
> small tool and further extensions - hoping that CCL will get many more
> extensions like this - like MCL before.
>
>
> * the presented list does not say what it displays. I would prefer a
> small print title for the menu ('all definitions', 'last
> definitions', ...).
>
>
> * It occupies the right click menu, also with a lot of modifiers.
> Every other tool out there would like to get the right click menu,
> soon. On the Lisp Machine for example, right click in the editor
> brings up a small menu, where one of the menu items is 'List
> Definitions' and on invoking it, it displays a typeout window with
> mouse sensitive definitions names and their type (class, function,
> variable, ...). LispWorks has a right click menu that repeats some of
> the menus from the menubar (which I think is a bit of overkill for a
> Mac UI).
>
> My suggestion (not specifically directed to Glen, but to the CCL  
> crowd):
>
>  CCL adds a general right click menu, where contributions can add
> their functionality to. Thus we can have other things like inspect,
> who calls, arglist, hyperspec lookup, ... on the right click menu,  
> too.
>
>
> * I wonder if displaying the results this way scales, it for example
> makes it difficult to invoke the functionality via a key command or an
> extended command. 'M-x list definitions' could/should (?) show the
> same result.
>
>
> * CCL might also need a menu in the menubar for these contributions,
> or some place where they can be added under >Tools.
>
>
> Generally I would say that the MCL UI had a mistake, that is easily
> repeatable with CCL: some commands were not easily discoverable. They
> were only available via obscure keyboard commands or mouse gestures. I
> would like to see the CCL UI to be more discoverable - that means that
> ANY useful user interface command has an entry in the menubar,
> somewhere. The expert can use the short cuts, once he/she has found
> the functionality - but for the newbie or the casual user, there
> should be an entry in the menubar's menus.
>
> Anyway, great contribution - I'll try it out a bit...
>
> Thanks,
>
> Rainer Joswig
>
>
>
> Am 17.08.2009 um 19:00 schrieb Glen Foy:
>
>> I've added a position history list and a file history list to this
>> code.
>>
>> The position list is a most-recently-visited list of 25 definition
>> positions.  The file list is a most-recently-visited list of 25
>> files.  Both lists are persistent.
>>
>> The key chording now looks like this:
>>
>> Right-Click  -->  an alphabetical listing of the file's definitions.
>> Command-Right-Click  -->  a positional listing of the file's
>> definitions.
>> Alt-Right-Click  -->  a listing of the most recently visited
>> definitions
>> Alt-Command-Right-Click  -->  a listing of the most recently visited
>> files.
>>
>>
>> www.clairvaux.org/downloads/list-definitions-02b1.zip
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