[Openmcl-devel] My beach balls runneth over

Ron Garret ron at awun.net
Tue May 19 17:46:48 PDT 2009

I think "very unstable" is putting it much too harshly.  I've  
encountered what appears at the moment to be two problems, one of  
which I think is well on the way to being solved, and neither of which  
seems to be affecting anybody but me.  My impression is that the IDE  
is very nearly ready for prime time, at least for my needs.  I'm  
pretty close to going back to CCL as my primary development platform.


On May 19, 2009, at 3:07 PM, John McAleely wrote:

> I've held off from responding on this thread for a while, but your  
> description of using the IDE and finding it very unstable is exactly  
> the experience I had a couple of months ago.
> I would have been using 1.2, so when you reported 1.3 was similar, I  
> was assuming the work in trunk might make my experience irrelevant.  
> However, now that it seems that some users of trunk can use it  
> successfully, while you see instability means I do at least want to  
> observe that I saw the same sort of problems you see.
> My usage was a Saturday spent prototyping non critical (and very  
> newbie) code. I resolved not to touch the IDE again until the  
> current work package was concluded. (My production use of CCL is all  
> via the command line).
> I assumed all IDE users experienced the same problems, and that my  
> lack of experience would reduce the value of bug reports, given that  
> more experienced people would also find these. If that is not the  
> case, I am inclined to find some time to play a little more in my  
> setup and see if I can create reproducible bugs, rather than simply  
> a long winded 'me too' posting on this list.
> J
> On 19 May 2009, at 22:53, Ron Garret wrote:
>> On May 19, 2009, at 2:40 PM, Ron Garret wrote:
>>> On May 19, 2009, at 2:16 PM, Raffael Cavallaro wrote:
>>>> I don't see any of this. I'm running trunk though. Maybe you  
>>>> should switch?
>>> Trying that now.  For the record, the version I was running came  
>>> from the instructions on http://trac.clozure.com/openmcl:
>>> The preferred way to get Clozure CL is via Subversion. For  
>>> example, to get Clozure CL 1.3 for Darwin/x86, you'd type (where  
>>> the $ is the shell prompt):
>>> $ svn co http://svn.clozure.com/publicsvn/openmcl/release/1.3/darwinx86/ccl
>>> If people should be running the trunk this probably ought to be  
>>> changed or I'm not going to be the only one having these problems.
>>> Also for the record, I can tolerate a certain amount of  
>>> instability at the moment if problems like this are being fixed  
>>> relatively quickly (like hours to days rather than weeks to  
>>> months).  I'm not doing anything mission-critical right now, so  
>>> it's actually a good time for me to be a guinea pig.
>> Youch!  Brain wedgie.  Of course, the trunk *is* the bleeding edge.
>> rg
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