[Openmcl-devel] Multiple IDEs for CLZ [Re: A plug for nx1-combination-hook]

[Terje Norderhaug]

On Sep 7, 2009, at 1:30 PM, Tim Bradshaw wrote:
> On 7 Sep 2009, at 17:52, Terje Norderhaug wrote:
>> I am in the camp preferring a more spartan, focused IDE for myself,
>> with just the functionality I need. But I can see the attraction of
>> toolbars etc. It could be useful to have a variety of IDEs on top of
>> a lisp environment, supporting the taste/needs of different  
>> developers.
>
> I agree with this, but I feel perhaps more strongly.  I use Eclipse  
> relatively frequently, and it basically makes me feel fairly ill  
> every time I do so.  I'm not a very fluent Java programmer but I  
> still do not want something that overwhelming (and I can't see  
> anyone who can type wanting that).  It may be that younger  
> programmers today *do* want that - I guess the fact that Eclipse  
> exists at all must indicate that.

I recognize that programmers vary in how we prefer to work with  
development environments. Some are able to remember a high number of  
commands with little aid (making unix shell and emacs fit like a  
glove). Others benefit from aided recall and ease of (re) 
discoverability. Experience and time spent in an environment may  
change ones preference.

> FWIW I quite liked LispWork's IDE which was a good compromise and  
> had a number of powerful tools (mainly the grapher).  I would still  
> be using that if I could justify the cost given how much CL I write  
> now.  So looking at that might be interesting.


We could have LispWork's IDE as *one* of the development environments  
available for use with Clozure CL.

-- Terje Norderhaug