Franz was one of the original CLIM developers along with ILA and Symbolics. My guess is that it should be very close to the same. It seems to be very close to what Symbolics had. Craig On Wed, 2017-02-08 at 20:22 -0800, Chris Hanson wrote: > Is the Franz CLIM a cousin of the codebase for the ILA/Digitool CLIM? > > -- Chris >