[Openmcl-devel] Is CCL dead?

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pre-built/signed CCL.app via ccl.clozure.com <http://ccl.clozure.com/> is the way forward.

-J

> On 3 May 2019, at 18:36, R. Matthew Emerson <rme at acm.org> wrote:
> 
> The app was rejected because it doesn't use the app sandbox.  Bypassing the default sigaction was not the reason.
> 
> We've been exempted from that up to now because we were in the app store before that requirement was instituted.  I'm not exactly sure why app review is insisting on using the app sandbox now, but the message was something like "you have adopted macOS Mojave, so you now need to use the app sandbox."
> 
> The only thing I can think of to try is to submit a version of the current 1.11.5 app that contains just bug fixes, and see if Apple will approve that.  I will try to do that this weekend if I can find some time.
> 
> If that attempt fails, I see no alternative other than removing the app from the app store, and distributing a pre-built/signed CCL.app via ccl.clozure.com.
> 
> -m
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On May 3, 2019, at 3:58 AM, Camille Troillard <camille.troillard at icloud.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Ron,
>> 
>> Sorry if I am wrong.
>> Isn’t ensuring a signal is matched at the user level and the kernel level a measure that prevents tampering with executables?
>> 
>> 
>> Cam
>> 
>> 
>>> On 3 May 2019, at 12:49, Ron Garret <ron at flownet.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> How is this a security feature?
>>> 
>>> On May 3, 2019, at 3:47 AM, Camille Troillard <camille.troillard at icloud.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi Bruce,
>>>> 
>>>> I guess the reason of the rejection is the bypass of a security feature:
>>>> 
>>>> https://github.com/Clozure/ccl/commit/dd5622e9da69edc48dbf97c6caa6f3a7e16f932b
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Best,
>>>> Camille
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 3 May 2019, at 12:17, Bruce O'Neel <bruce.oneel at pckswarms.ch> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'm sure someone better informed will speak up, but, a new version was submitted that works fine in Mojave but Apple rejected it.  I'm not remembering the exact reason but I think it could be reduced down to "we've changed the rules, again, and what was ok before is no longer ok, and no we will not grandfather a new version of an App that was just perfectly fine before."
>>>>> 
>>>>> cheers
>>>>> 
>>>>> bruce
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 03 May 2019 11:10 Alexander Repenning <alexander.repenning at Colorado.EDU> wrote:
>>>>> Dear all
>>>>> 
>>>>> The outside in view of CCL from somebody not using CCL anymore other than through applications built with it (AgentCubes) is not too great. Perhaps the CCL community does not care about this, but the curb appeal of CCL, judged by the current version of CCL in the App store, is tanking. This is really a shame as CCL, before Mojave, got great reviews but now this:
>>>>> 
>>>>> <PastedGraphic-1.png>
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Going a bit deeper the version described as “current release” is 1.11.5
>>>>> 
>>>>>> This release brings the 1.11 branch up-to-date with current OS releases, and fixes numerous bugs.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Well, this is clearly not true anymore as the current version of MacOS is Mojave. Also, version 1.11.1 was from March 3, 2016. The “current” release, more than 3 years later, is 1.11.5? I know that there are some suggested fixes and there is even a 1.12 dev version somewhere but over all one gets a pretty bad impression of the state of CCL. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> While most CCL developers build their own version of CCL I urge Clozure Associates and the CCL community to update the CCL App in the Apple store.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> all the best,  Alex  (ducking, assuming upset emails, about how terrible Mojave, Apple, etc. is, are about to hit me)
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Prof. Alexander Repenning
>>>>> 
>>>>> University of Colorado
>>>>> Computer Science Department
>>>>> Boulder, CO 80309-430
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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