[Openmcl-devel] Clozure CL is healthy?
Robert Goldman
rpgoldman at sift.info
Wed Sep 1 10:50:19 PDT 2021
One thing I noticed is that your tar command is wrong. If the tar
archive is compressed, you need to tell tar that. Try again with `tar
-xzf` or `tar --gunzip -xf ...`
On 1 Sep 2021, at 12:46, Myra Jean Prelle wrote:
> Hi CCl folks
>
> I tried following the instructions from:
> https://github.com/Clozure/ccl/releases
> <https://github.com/Clozure/ccl/releases>
> but I’m having a problem:
>
> kumquat-2:lisp_ccl myra$ git clone https://github.com/Clozure/ccl.git
> ccl-dev
> Cloning into 'ccl-dev'...
> remote: Enumerating objects: 31789, done.
> remote: Counting objects: 100% (138/138), done.
> remote: Compressing objects: 100% (108/108), done.
> remote: Total 31789 (delta 59), reused 67 (delta 30), pack-reused
> 31651
> Receiving objects: 100% (31789/31789), 46.11 MiB | 47.03 MiB/s, done.
> Resolving deltas: 100% (22959/22959), done.
> kumquat-2:lisp_ccl myra$
>
>
> kumquat-2:lisp_ccl myra$ curl -L -O
> https://github.com/Clozure/ccl/releases/download/v1.12/darwinx86.tar.gz
> % Total % Received % Xferd Average Speed Time Time Time
> Current
> Dload Upload Total Spent Left
> Speed
> 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 --:--:-- 0:00:01
> --:--:-- 0
> curl: (7) Failed to connect to github.com port 443: Bad file
> descriptor
> kumquat-2:lisp_ccl myra$
>
> I looked in the ccl_dev directory, & there are a lot of good things
> there. But
>
> kumquat-2:ccl-dev myra$ tar xf ../darwinx86.tar.gz
> tar: Error opening archive: Failed to open '../darwinx86.tar.gz'
>
> Am I doing something wrong?
>
> Thank you for your help,
> myra
>
>
>> On Aug 30, 2021, at 5:26 PM, Joakim Sandgren
>> <info at joakimsandgren.com> wrote:
>>
>> It does work fine.
>> In the instructions (very good) I would add (require
>> ‘cocoa-application) at the end. No ? (Am I missing something ?).
>> Now I had to take that from memory…
>> Otherwise very good,
>>
>> Sincerely,
>> Joakim
>>
>>> Le 30 août 2021 à 18:46, info <info at joakimsandgren.com
>>> <mailto:info at joakimsandgren.com>> a écrit :
>>>
>>> absolutely!
>>> /j
>>>
>>>> Le 30 août 2021 à 18:34, Andrew Shalit <alms at clozure.com
>>>> <mailto:alms at clozure.com>> a écrit :
>>>>
>>>> I hope so, but I haven’t tried it recently. I’m just getting
>>>> my head (and my hardware) back into CCL. If you have a chance to
>>>> try it, please let us know how it goes, and I’ll do the same.
>>>>
>>>> Andrew
>>>>
>>>>> On Aug 30, 2021, at 12:23 PM, Joakim Sandgren
>>>>> <info at joakimsandgren.com <mailto:info at joakimsandgren.com>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>> Does this work on an intel mac with Big Sur ??
>>>>>
>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>> Joakim
>>>>>
>>>>>> Le 30 août 2021 à 18:12, Andrew Shalit <alms at clozure.com
>>>>>> <mailto:alms at clozure.com>> a écrit :
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Myra -
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for volunteering for this project. Do you know how to use
>>>>>> the Macintosh command line? If so, the instructions here should
>>>>>> be helpful.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://github.com/Clozure/ccl/releases/tag/v1.12
>>>>>> <https://github.com/Clozure/ccl/releases/tag/v1.12>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Andrew
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Aug 26, 2021, at 11:33 PM, Myra Jean Prelle
>>>>>>> <mjp32 at comcast.net <mailto:mjp32 at comcast.net>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi CCL folks
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have offered to help Ron with his document. In addition to
>>>>>>> reading the document, I would like to help him by checking that
>>>>>>> all his examples work.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As for checking examples, I haven’t run CCL on my Mac in a
>>>>>>> while (been playing Python). I tried CCL from Mac App store,
>>>>>>> but it crashed immediately. Does anyone have a set of
>>>>>>> instructions for setting up CCL on an Intel Mac 2.6 GHz 6-Core
>>>>>>> Intel Core i7 running Big Sur 11.5.2, so I can test his
>>>>>>> examples?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thank you for your help,
>>>>>>> Myra
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Aug 26, 2021, at 4:17 PM, Ron Garret <ron at flownet.com
>>>>>>>> <mailto:ron at flownet.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> An M1 port is in the works. but probably won’t be ready for
>>>>>>>> several months. The project is just now getting off the
>>>>>>>> ground.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But your concern is not misplaced. The CCL community is very
>>>>>>>> small and not growing. In particular, the number of people who
>>>>>>>> are sufficiently familiar with how it works under the hood to
>>>>>>>> be able to actually do something like the M1 port is very
>>>>>>>> small, certainly less than 10, possibly less than 5. If we
>>>>>>>> were talking about wildlife they’d be listed as critically
>>>>>>>> endangered. So for the long run I’m much more worried about
>>>>>>>> generational knowledge transfer than the M1 port. That will
>>>>>>>> buy some time, but one thing is pretty clear and that is that
>>>>>>>> the Apple platform will forever be a moving target (and it’s
>>>>>>>> not altogether clear to me that it will continue to be one
>>>>>>>> worth shooting at).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> One thing that I started working on a while back to try to
>>>>>>>> address this problem is an introductory programming book based
>>>>>>>> on CCL. The beginnings of that project can be found here:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://github.com/rongarret/BWFP
>>>>>>>> <https://github.com/rongarret/BWFP>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I abandoned it in part because I tried and failed to recruit
>>>>>>>> someone to be a “beta tester” for the book as I wrote it to
>>>>>>>> make sure that what I was writing would actually be
>>>>>>>> comprehensible to the target audience, and to make sure that
>>>>>>>> all the examples actually worked. If someone is interested in
>>>>>>>> stepping up to that plate I would consider picking that back up
>>>>>>>> again.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> rg
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Aug 26, 2021, at 10:16 AM, Parksungmin <byulparan at gmail.com
>>>>>>>> <mailto:byulparan at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> CCL has just 7 commit in 2021 (last commit is 15 Jul). it also
>>>>>>>>> seems not start to port for Silicon M1.
>>>>>>>>> CCL is my favorite implementation. I'm afraid of the this
>>>>>>>>> status.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> When will it be possible to work with CCL in M1 Mac?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>>>>
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