[Openmcl-devel] Clozure CL is healthy?

Stas Boukarev stassats at gmail.com
Wed Sep 1 11:08:38 PDT 2021 

tar xf should work fine.

On Wed, Sep 1, 2021 at 8:50 PM Robert Goldman <rpgoldman at sift.info> wrote:
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> One thing I noticed is that your tar command is wrong. If the tar archive is compressed, you need to tell tar that. Try again with tar -xzf or tar --gunzip -xf ...
>
> On 1 Sep 2021, at 12:46, Myra Jean Prelle wrote:
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> Hi CCl folks
>
> I tried following the instructions from:  https://github.com/Clozure/ccl/releases
> but I’m having a problem:
>
> kumquat-2:lisp_ccl myra$ git clone https://github.com/Clozure/ccl.git ccl-dev
> Cloning into 'ccl-dev'...
> remote: Enumerating objects: 31789, done.
> remote: Counting objects: 100% (138/138), done.
> remote: Compressing objects: 100% (108/108), done.
> remote: Total 31789 (delta 59), reused 67 (delta 30), pack-reused 31651
> Receiving objects: 100% (31789/31789), 46.11 MiB | 47.03 MiB/s, done.
> Resolving deltas: 100% (22959/22959), done.
> kumquat-2:lisp_ccl myra$
>
>
> kumquat-2:lisp_ccl myra$ curl -L -O https://github.com/Clozure/ccl/releases/download/v1.12/darwinx86.tar.gz
>   % Total    % Received % Xferd  Average Speed   Time    Time     Time  Current
>                                  Dload  Upload   Total   Spent    Left  Speed
>   0     0    0     0    0     0      0      0 --:--:--  0:00:01 --:--:--     0
> curl: (7) Failed to connect to github.com port 443: Bad file descriptor
> kumquat-2:lisp_ccl myra$
>
> I looked in the ccl_dev directory, & there are a lot of good things there.  But
>
> kumquat-2:ccl-dev myra$ tar xf ../darwinx86.tar.gz
> tar: Error opening archive: Failed to open '../darwinx86.tar.gz'
>
> Am I doing something wrong?
>
> Thank you for your help,
> myra
>
>
> On Aug 30, 2021, at 5:26 PM, Joakim Sandgren <info at joakimsandgren.com> wrote:
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> It does work fine.
> In the instructions (very good) I would add (require ‘cocoa-application) at the end. No ? (Am I missing something ?).
> Now I had to take that from memory…
> Otherwise very good,
>
> Sincerely,
> Joakim
>
> Le 30 août 2021 à 18:46, info <info at joakimsandgren.com> a écrit :
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> absolutely!
> /j
>
> Le 30 août 2021 à 18:34, Andrew Shalit <alms at clozure.com> a écrit :
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> I hope so, but I haven’t tried it recently.  I’m just getting my head (and my hardware) back into CCL.  If you have a chance to try it, please let us know how it goes, and I’ll do the same.
>
> Andrew
>
> On Aug 30, 2021, at 12:23 PM, Joakim Sandgren <info at joakimsandgren.com> wrote:
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> Hello,
> Does this work on an intel mac with Big Sur ??
>
> Sincerely,
> Joakim
>
> Le 30 août 2021 à 18:12, Andrew Shalit <alms at clozure.com> a écrit :
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> Hi Myra -
>
> Thanks for volunteering for this project.  Do you know how to use the Macintosh command line?  If so, the instructions here should be helpful.
>
> https://github.com/Clozure/ccl/releases/tag/v1.12
>
> Andrew
>
> On Aug 26, 2021, at 11:33 PM, Myra Jean Prelle <mjp32 at comcast.net> wrote:
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> Hi CCL folks
>
> I have offered to help Ron with his document.  In addition to reading the document, I would like to help him by checking that all his examples work.
>
> As for checking examples, I haven’t run CCL on my Mac in a while (been playing Python).  I tried CCL from Mac App store, but it crashed immediately.  Does anyone have a set of instructions for setting up CCL on an Intel Mac 2.6 GHz 6-Core Intel Core i7 running Big Sur 11.5.2, so I can test his examples?
>
> Thank you for your help,
> Myra
>
> On Aug 26, 2021, at 4:17 PM, Ron Garret <ron at flownet.com> wrote:
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> An M1 port is in the works. but probably won’t be ready for several months.  The project is just now getting off the ground.
>
> But your concern is not misplaced.  The CCL community is very small and not growing.  In particular, the number of people who are sufficiently familiar with how it works under the hood to be able to actually do something like the M1 port is very small, certainly less than 10, possibly less than 5.  If we were talking about wildlife they’d be listed as critically endangered.  So for the long run I’m much more worried about generational knowledge transfer than the M1 port.  That will buy some time, but one thing is pretty clear and that is that the Apple platform will forever be a moving target (and it’s not altogether clear to me that it will continue to be one worth shooting at).
>
> One thing that I started working on a while back to try to address this problem is an introductory programming book based on CCL.  The beginnings of that project can be found here:
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> https://github.com/rongarret/BWFP
>
> I abandoned it in part because I tried and failed to recruit someone to be a “beta tester” for the book as I wrote it to make sure that what I was writing would actually be comprehensible to the target audience, and to make sure that all the examples actually worked.  If someone is interested in stepping up to that plate I would consider picking that back up again.
>
> rg
>
> On Aug 26, 2021, at 10:16 AM, Parksungmin <byulparan at gmail.com> wrote:
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> CCL has just 7 commit in 2021 (last commit is 15 Jul). it also seems not start to port for Silicon M1.
> CCL is my favorite implementation. I'm afraid of the this status.
>
> When will it be possible to work with CCL in M1 Mac?
>
> Thank you.
>
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