[Openmcl-devel] Clozure CL is healthy?
Christian Lynbech
christian at defun.dk
Thu Sep 2 21:34:30 PDT 2021
Is that a BSD thing?
The standard tar on linux, when using just "xf", has for a long time
been able to handle also compressed tar files. Using the correct
decompression modifier is of course never wrong.
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Hit the philistines three times over the head with the Elisp reference manual.
- petonic at hal.com (Michael A. Petonic)
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On Wed, Sep 01 2021, Robert Goldman wrote:
One thing I noticed is that your tar command is wrong. If the tar archive is compressed, you need to tell tar that.
Try again with tar -xzf or tar --gunzip -xf ...
On 1 Sep 2021, at 12:46, Myra Jean Prelle wrote:
Hi CCl folks
I tried following the instructions from: https://github.com/Clozure/ccl/releases
but I’m having a problem:
kumquat-2:lisp_ccl myra$ git clone https://github.com/Clozure/ccl.git ccl-dev
Cloning into 'ccl-dev'...
remote: Enumerating objects: 31789, done.
remote: Counting objects: 100% (138/138), done.
remote: Compressing objects: 100% (108/108), done.
remote: Total 31789 (delta 59), reused 67 (delta 30), pack-reused 31651
Receiving objects: 100% (31789/31789), 46.11 MiB | 47.03 MiB/s, done.
Resolving deltas: 100% (22959/22959), done.
kumquat-2:lisp_ccl myra$
kumquat-2:lisp_ccl myra$ curl -L -O
https://github.com/Clozure/ccl/releases/download/v1.12/darwinx86.tar.gz
% Total % Received % Xferd Average Speed Time Time Time Current
Dload Upload Total Spent Left Speed
0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 --:--:-- 0:00:01 --:--:-- 0
curl: (7) Failed to connect to github.com port 443: Bad file descriptor
kumquat-2:lisp_ccl myra$
I looked in the ccl_dev directory, & there are a lot of good things there. But
kumquat-2:ccl-dev myra$ tar xf ../darwinx86.tar.gz
tar: Error opening archive: Failed to open '../darwinx86.tar.gz'
Am I doing something wrong?
Thank you for your help,
myra
On Aug 30, 2021, at 5:26 PM, Joakim Sandgren <info at joakimsandgren.com> wrote:
It does work fine.
In the instructions (very good) I would add (require ‘cocoa-application) at the end. No ? (Am I missing
something ?).
Now I had to take that from memory…
Otherwise very good,
Sincerely,
Joakim
Le 30 août 2021 à 18:46, info <info at joakimsandgren.com> a écrit :
absolutely!
/j
Le 30 août 2021 à 18:34, Andrew Shalit <alms at clozure.com> a écrit :
I hope so, but I haven’t tried it recently. I’m just getting my head (and my hardware) back
into CCL. If you have a chance to try it, please let us know how it goes, and I’ll do the
same.
Andrew
On Aug 30, 2021, at 12:23 PM, Joakim Sandgren <info at joakimsandgren.com>
wrote:
Hello,
Does this work on an intel mac with Big Sur ??
Sincerely,
Joakim
Le 30 août 2021 à 18:12, Andrew Shalit <alms at clozure.com> a écrit :
Hi Myra -
Thanks for volunteering for this project. Do you know how to use the
Macintosh command line? If so, the instructions here should be helpful.
https://github.com/Clozure/ccl/releases/tag/v1.12
Andrew
On Aug 26, 2021, at 11:33 PM, Myra Jean Prelle <mjp32 at comcast.net>
wrote:
Hi CCL folks
I have offered to help Ron with his document. In addition to reading the
document, I would like to help him by checking that all his examples
work.
As for checking examples, I haven’t run CCL on my Mac in a while (been
playing Python). I tried CCL from Mac App store, but it crashed
immediately. Does anyone have a set of instructions for setting up CCL
on an Intel Mac 2.6 GHz 6-Core Intel Core i7 running Big Sur 11.5.2, so I
can test his examples?
Thank you for your help,
Myra
On Aug 26, 2021, at 4:17 PM, Ron Garret <ron at flownet.com>
wrote:
An M1 port is in the works. but probably won’t be ready for several
months. The project is just now getting off the ground.
But your concern is not misplaced. The CCL community is very
small and not growing. In particular, the number of people who are
sufficiently familiar with how it works under the hood to be able to
actually do something like the M1 port is very small, certainly less
than 10, possibly less than 5. If we were talking about wildlife they’d
be listed as critically endangered. So for the long run I’m much
more worried about generational knowledge transfer than the M1
port. That will buy some time, but one thing is pretty clear and that
is that the Apple platform will forever be a moving target (and it’s
not altogether clear to me that it will continue to be one worth
shooting at).
One thing that I started working on a while back to try to address
this problem is an introductory programming book based on CCL.
The beginnings of that project can be found here:
https://github.com/rongarret/BWFP
I abandoned it in part because I tried and failed to recruit someone
to be a “beta tester” for the book as I wrote it to make sure that
what I was writing would actually be comprehensible to the target
audience, and to make sure that all the examples actually worked.
If someone is interested in stepping up to that plate I would
consider picking that back up again.
rg
On Aug 26, 2021, at 10:16 AM, Parksungmin
<byulparan at gmail.com> wrote:
CCL has just 7 commit in 2021 (last commit is 15 Jul). it also
seems not start to port for Silicon M1.
CCL is my favorite implementation. I'm afraid of the this
status.
When will it be possible to work with CCL in M1 Mac?
Thank you.
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