[Openmcl-devel] “Prehistoric” MCL
Tim McNerney
mc at media.mit.edu
Fri Mar 4 07:02:02 PST 2022
Great to hear from you Jeremy!
I too would like to see Coral’s early products preserved.
I started a bit of a web museum myself at 4004.com.
Fitting Hunchentoot into a 4MB Mac Classic does sound intriguing.
Though we would need to be careful not to get slashdotted, and
the temptation to solve this problem with a 68000-based load balancer
joyfully reminds me of There Was an Old Lady Who Swallowed a Fly.
Thanks for the pointer to the greater Mac emulator community.
(I bet a client-side 68000 VM could be made to run at speed in WebAssembly.)
Please do share your interesting papers. Thanks!
--Tim
> On Mar 4, 2022, at 08:49, Jeremy Jones <jaj at pobox.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Tim!
>
> Congrats on getting the classic Mac. I've been thinking about ancient MCL too. I sure wish I saved stuff, especially hardcopies of sources.
>
> If anyone does have the old floppies, one could use this approach to make disk images:
>
> https://www.chzsoft.de/site/hardware/preserving-a-floppy-disk-with-a-logic-analyzer/
>
> There are also emulators:
> https://www.emaculation.com/doku.php/news
>
> Anyone else interested in MCL archeology? We could start an online MCL museum with old disk images, repls via browser, etc.?
>
> Anyone have any MCL CDs? Chime in if you want to contribute anything or help with a website. I have some papers that might be of interest. How about a website written in Object Lisp served from Tim's Mac Classic?
>
> On Fri, Mar 4, 2022, 12:27 AM Tim McNerney <mc at media.mit.edu> wrote:
>> Motivated by my recent purchase of a refurbished Mac Classic (*),
>> I am searching for a couple of types of “prehistoric” software.
>> 1) 68000 MCL that runs in 4MB of RAM and a tiny B/W screen. (**)
>> 2) examples of early Mac apps written in MCL with decent UIs.
>>
>> (*) With a BlueSCSI SSD instead of a fragile HDD.
>>
>> Is the rumor true that Coral Software delivered a complete Common Lisp
>> compressed onto a single 9cm floppy? (3 1/2”)
>>
>> (**) I’m not looking for one of these physical floppies.
>> 9cm floppies were notorious, even brand new, of not being archival.
>> Some sort of disk image would be better.
>>
>> --Tim
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