[Openmcl-devel] CCL on Apple Silicon

[Ron Garret]

CCL does run on Apple silicon under Rosetta 2.  It's just not reliable; it crashes occasionally.  But it will run long enough between crashes to be useful for some tasks.

There is also an effort underway to do a native Apple silicon port.  The jury is still out regarding if and when it will be complete, but it's still a very real possibility within the next year or two, which is to say, within the supported lifetime of Intel Macs.  So while it is definitely a risk, sticking with CCL is not necessarily a dead end yet.

Personally I do my development on a screen-shared Intel Mac Mini, and I too have been exploring SBCL.  SBCL itself is not too bad, but find that I really really miss the CCL IDE.  Emacs and slime are just not the same.

rg

> On Apr 7, 2024, at 3:49 AM, peter <p2.edoc at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Am I correct in concluding the Clozure Common Lisp will not run on Apple Silicon under any guise. So not natively, under Rosetta-2, in virtualisation (do any support X86 emulation) under Parallels, UTM, VMware Fusion, VirtualBox on Apple Silicon?
> 
> Hence for those that want to keep going with their Clozure Lisp but on current Apple systems (ie. Apple Silicon) it'll have to be via Screen Sharing to an 2018 Intel Mac Mini or such.
> 
> That or move on to SBCL et al and rewrite code as far as viable. For those addicted to the CCL Hemlock UI, get used to Emacs-Slime.
> 
> Meanwhile praying that Clozure breathes again, and cursing the INT instruction void. Or sticking with an unsupported Intel Mac, or abandon Apple and morph over to the WinTel world.
> 
> Is this how things stand today for those whose digital life has been heavily CCL based. Somehow I never got any message saying the CCL on current Apple computers (Apple Silicon) is a complete and indefinite no-go (unless there's some radical phoenix action).
> 
> I.e. CCL is effectively dead and buried on current Macs, full stop.
> 
> Crossing fingers and hoping to be shot down in flames.