From rme at clozure.com  Wed Sep  4 16:40:02 2024
From: rme at clozure.com (R. Matthew Emerson)
Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2024 16:40:02 -0700
Subject: [Openmcl-devel] mailing list migration
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This is a reminder that openmcl-devel will be retired soon.

Many people have subscribed to the replacement ccl-devel list, and the new list has seen a few messages.

If you want to subscribe to the new list, send mail to ccl-devel+subscribe at clozure.com and reply to the message that it sends you to confirm your subscription.

If you tried to subscribe, and haven?t seen a reply asking you to confirm your subscription, please send a new subscription request (or mail me directly and I can add you by hand).


> On Aug 28, 2024, at 12:05?PM, R. Matthew Emerson <rme at clozure.com> wrote:
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> openmcl-devel at clozure.com <mailto:openmcl-devel at clozure.com> will be retired soon.  Its replacement is a new list, ccl-devel at clozure.com <mailto:ccl-devel at clozure.com>.  Your subscription will not be automatically moved over. If you wish to subscribe to the new list, you can do so by sending mail to ccl-devel+subscribe at clozure.com <mailto:ccl-devel+subscribe at clozure.com>.
> 
> For more details, read on.
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> This mailing list, openmcl-devel at clozure.com <mailto:openmcl-devel at clozure.com>, has been managed by the Mailman program for many years.
> 
> Mailman 2, which is what we?ve been running, requires Python 2.  The Python developers quit working on Python 2 in back in January 2020.  Instead of porting Mailman 2 to Python 3, the Mailman developers decided to create Mailman 3, which is quite different from Mailman 2.
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> At the moment, Python 2 is still available for easy installation on FreeBSD and probably some other systems, but they are warning that it is deprecated, and at some point, they will stop providing it.
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> So, I?ve decided to try using new mailing list management software, namely mlmmj (http://mlmmj.org <http://mlmmj.org/>).
> 
> Here is the plan.
> 
> I have created a new mailing list ccl-devel at clozure.com <mailto:ccl-devel at clozure.com>, managed by mlmmj.  You have to subscribe to it anew by sending mail to ccl-devel+subscribe at clozure.com <mailto:ccl-devel+subscribe at clozure.com>. [1]
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> List archives for the new list will not be immediately available, but will be in the near future.  I will also make the old Mailman list archives conveniently accessible somewhere.
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> For the moment, the way to subscribe and unsubscribe to the new list is by sending it email.  There is a simple web-based front end for subscribing and unsubscribing that I will make available when the list archives become available.
> 
> I hate to have to do this, because it takes up time I?d rather spend on something else.  Renaming the list is probably going to be disruptive as well.  But I feel that I have to do something to get off Python 2.
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> 
> 
> 1. There is no technical reason I couldn?t automatically add all current subscribers, but I don?t feel like that?s appropriate.  I would rather have people take explicit action.
>