<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div>I do not want to sound unappreciative, or start some flamewar, but given that Clozure CL is in its early stage I think it is important to seed the GUI example pool with samples that are Apple Human Interface Guidelines compliant (<a href="http://developer.apple.com/documentation/UserExperience/Conceptual/AppleHIGuidelines/">http://developer.apple.com/documentation/UserExperience/Conceptual/AppleHIGuidelines/</a> look for Alert)</div><div><br></div><div>We had similar kinds of discussions with MCL for quite some time. It took a long time to finally replace the hand made dialogs (which broke over time) with HIG compliant ones based on high level tool box code. Apple makes this pretty easy actually. I think I even saw some CCL sample code somewhere to just use NSAlert (<a href="http://developer.apple.com/documentation/Cocoa/Reference/ApplicationKit/Classes/NSAlert_Class/Reference/Reference.html">http://developer.apple.com/documentation/Cocoa/Reference/ApplicationKit/Classes/NSAlert_Class/Reference/Reference.html</a>).</div><div><br></div><div>I am all for including a couple of essential dialogs into CCL similar to MCL. y-or-n-dialog, choose-file/folder *... come to mind. These should not even be examples. They should be built in.</div><div><br></div><div>all the best, Alex</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><br><div><div>On Sep 5, 2008, at 7:58 AM, Arthur W Cater wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">Sorry that I didn't think to attach the file instead of pasting into message body.<div>I certainly didn't mean to cause anybody any extra editing work!</div><div>I'm attaching my original file to this message.</div><div><br></div><div>Sign me up for SVN write access please; then I'll have to learn how to use it.</div><div>As a newbie, very conscious of the enormous amount of both ccl and cocoa</div><div>that I don't know, I'm rather scared of contributing buggy code, so I hope that</div><div>folk intending to use it will look over it and criticise it. For example in the present</div><div>case, I don't know if I should be using some autorelease-pool stuff (I'm not) because</div><div>my study hasn't gone there yet. So many FMs to R!</div><div><br></div><div>Arthur </div><div><br></div> <span><y-or-n.lisp></span>_______________________________________________<br>Openmcl-devel mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Openmcl-devel@clozure.com">Openmcl-devel@clozure.com</a><br>http://clozure.com/mailman/listinfo/openmcl-devel<br></blockquote></div><br><div apple-content-edited="true"> <span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><font face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">Prof. Alexander Repenning</font></p><p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><br class="khtml-block-placeholder"></p><p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px">University of Colorado</p><p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px">Computer Science Department</p><p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px">Boulder, CO 80309-430</p><p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><br class="khtml-block-placeholder"></p><p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><font face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">vCard: <a href="http://www.cs.colorado.edu/~ralex/AlexanderRepenning.vcf">http://www.cs.colorado.edu/~ralex/AlexanderRepenning.vcf</a></font></p><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></span></span></span></div></span> </div><br></body></html>