<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div>svn status cocoa-ide</div><div><br></div><div>returns nothing. The Clozure CL32 and Clozure CL64 Apps created worked fine for weeks. The cocoa-ide never got touched. This rules out a). b) would not be very likely given that the problem only manifests itself after a long time (weeks) of use. </div><div><br></div><div>Where does the meta info go regarding hemlock buffer window position and size. Could there be some caching going on that could go bad after a crash?</div><div><br></div><div>Alex</div><div><br></div><br><div><div>On Oct 26, 2010, at 9:28 PM, Gary Byers wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div>I haven't seen or heard of this happening; I have a couple of theories but<br>no real confidence that either is correct.<br><br>a) someone in your organization (Mike Minerva) was asking about suppressing<br>the display of the IDE's initial listener a month or so ago. I explained<br>some of the issues and they said that they were successful.<br><br>I don't know whether or not it makes sense to wonder whether any of the<br>sources you used to build the IDE were modified when that was going on,<br>but I do wonder about that. If you're not sure whether any of those sources<br>differ from the versions you got from svn, you can check via:<br><br>$ cd CCL # wherever it's installed<br>$ svn status cocoa-ide<br><br>If that generates some lines prefixed with the letter M, as in:<br><br>M cocoa-ide/hemlock/src/killcoms.lisp<br>M cocoa-ide/cocoa-utils.lisp<br><br>then the files named on those lines have been locally modified. If you<br>see such output, you can revert to the versions you obtained from svn by doing:<br><br>$ svn revert -R cocoa-ide<br><br>and rebuilding the IDE.<br><br>b) The error has to do with the fact that creation of the initial listener<br>tries to create a Hemlock buffer with the name "Untitled"; in your environment,<br>a buffer with that name already exists and an error is signaled; that doesn't<br>make sense, because no other Hemlock buffers should exist at this point in time.<br>The only way that I can (sort of, almost) imagine another "Untitled" buffer<br>existing at this point is if it was saved in the image.<br><br>Doing<br><br>? (require "COCOA-APPLICATION")<br><br>loads everything and starts the event loop, then almost immediately closes any<br>active windows, shuts down all other threads, and saves an image. It -may- be<br>possible for the event thread to get interrupted after it's created an "Untitled"<br>buffer for the listener window that generally appears briefly at this point but<br>before window creation is complete (so the window's never closed and the buffer's<br>never deleted.)<br><br>I just barely believe that this is possible; if it is, it's happening in a way<br>that I don't understand. (I don't think that the initial/event thread can<br>respond to the request to shut things down while it's in the middle of window<br>creation.) If there is a time window in the middle of window creation where<br>it can respond, then I don't understand how you could have hit that time window<br>when building both the 32- and 64-bit versions of the IDE.<br><br>If doing an "svn checkout" fixes things reliably, then that pretty<br>strongly suggests that the version of the sources that you were<br>running differs from the versions available in svn. (In other words,<br>some of your sources were locally modified.) I have no idea whether<br>they were or not, but at this point that seems like a strong<br>possibility.<br><br>On Tue, 26 Oct 2010, Alexander Repenning wrote:<br><br><blockquote type="cite">This is happening to me the second time. I launch CCL (1.6-dev-r14313M-trunk<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">?(DarwinX8664)) but get no Listener and cannot open files. I installed this<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">version a while ago, used it for some time without a problem. Today, after a<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">reboot of the machine, I get the error below. I blew away the preferences.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Does not help. Both 64 and 32 bit versions are not working anymore. Last<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">time I had to check out a complete new version of CCL to make things work<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">again.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">I suspect that it has something to do with the hemlock code trying to<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">remember where edit windows are located on the screen. Where is that<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">information stored? How can this be fixed?<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Alex<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">10/26/10 3:00:50 PM [0x0-0x2a02a].com.clozure.Clozure CL-x8632[343] ***<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Error in event process: "Untitled" already exists<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">10/26/10 3:00:50 PM [0x0-0x2a02a].com.clozure.Clozure CL-x8632[343] (34BBC0)<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">: 0 (FUNCALL #'#<(:INTERNAL GUI::|-[HemlockEditorDocument ini<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">10/26/10 3:00:50 PM [0x0-0x2a02a].com.clozure.Clozure CL-x8632[343] t]|)><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">#<SIMPLE-ERROR #xC6726E6>) 143<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">10/26/10 3:00:50 PM [0x0-0x2a02a].com.clozure.Clozure CL-x8632[343]<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">?(#:G59174)<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">10/26/10 3:00:50 PM [0x0-0x2a02a].com.clozure.Clozure CL-x8632[343] ?<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">#:G59174: 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