<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><div><br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><div>My problem with GitHub is slightly different than yours. It very probably *will not exist* in ten years time in any recognisable way: that's fine for the git repos which will have other authoritative clones, but it's *not* fine for the metadata: all the issue tracking / wiki / blah stuff will just evaporate, because none of that lives in the repo (actually the wiki stuff can I think). Issue-tracking, for instance, actually matters, and I don'r want to lose all that history.<br></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Along these lines, I would like to point out that the Common Lisp Foundation (thanks these days to the efforts of Erik Huelsemann and Efficito) have migrated most legacy <a href="http://common-lisp.net">common-lisp.net</a> repositories to <a href="http://gitlab.common-lisp.net">gitlab.common-lisp.net</a>, which is actively and meticulously maintained by Erik Huelsemann and Efficito these days as a service to the CL community. The past twelve months have seen several major repositories migrate from github _back_ to <a href="http://gitlab.common-lisp.net">gitlab.common-lisp.net</a> (including the Gendl project).</div><div><br></div><div>As an incorporated governing body with a parliamentary process and Articles of Incorporation dictating that it be influenced only by unbiased and long-term interest of the health of the CL ecosystem and community, the CLF have committed to keep this resource alive for the long term, with its metadata, etc. protected and accessible. CLF and the current <a href="http://gitlab.common-lisp.net">gitlab.common-lisp.net</a> have been designed specifically to avoid the kind of pitfalls which befell Sourceforge and which will almost certainly befall github and some point down the road.</div><div><br></div><div>RME made a point early in this thread that there are clear benefits to hosting important resources by one's self. Indeed, with gargantuan "free" services like github, the users can be virtually guaranteed that "they are the product" and, sooner or later, they will be sold down the river in some form or another. Supporting a genuine community resource like the CLF and <a href="http://gitlab.common-lisp.net">gitlab.common-lisp.net</a> can provide for a happy medium between being in control of one's own destiny, while benefiting from some amount of economy of scale and community infrastructure. </div><div><br></div><div>Just saying.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div>-- <br><div class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div>My Best,<br><br>Dave Cooper<br><a href="http://genworks.com" target="_blank">genworks.com</a>, <a href="http://gendl.org" target="_blank">gendl.org</a><br>+1 248-330-2979<br></div><div><br></div></div></div></div></div>
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