<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><br><div><div>On 4 Jul 2016, at 17:00, Ron Garret wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; ">When you say “does not seem to work” what exactly do you mean? Does it crash? Generate an error? Do nothing? What exactly are you doing to test it?<br></span></blockquote><div><br></div>Not an error, just the option-arrow moves the insertion point up a line<br><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><br>And while you’re at it, what do you mean by:<br><br><blockquote type="cite">The '+' etc, does not work on my install.<br></blockquote><br>That is very peculiar. Those variables are part of the CL standard. That they would “not work” is almost inconceivable.<br><br></span></blockquote><div><br></div>Ok, I misunderstood how to use the +, ++ etc. I now see that it does work, it simply needs a RETURN afterwards. But you do not see what line is being accessed until after the eval.</div><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; ">Also:<br><br><blockquote type="cite">I know the Listener is reading it because if I remove the 'in-package...' it produces an error at start-up.<br></blockquote><br>There are less radical ways to check if your ccl-ide-init file is being loaded, e.g.:<br><br>(print “CCL-IDE-INIT has been loaded”)<br></span></blockquote><br>This produces no output when I open CCL. </div><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; ">(setf *load-verbose* t)<br>(load “your-real-ccl-ide-init.lisp”)<br><br></span></blockquote><div><br></div>This was helpful. I found a bug in the init file where a curly quote had crept in.</div><div><br></div><div>I can now load the init file using load. I see the output of the print expression. Then the opt-arrow(s) work fine. But they no longer work when I restart CCL. </div><div><br></div><div>This seems to tell me that the init file is not being loaded at start-up. I wonder – is this option somehow turned off in my install?</div></body></html>