<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">On Jul 25, 2016, at 9:42 AM, Rainer Joswig <<a href="mailto:joswig@lisp.de" class="">joswig@lisp.de</a>> wrote:<br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><span style="font-family: SFMono-Regular; font-size: 11px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">One could get the sources for the MCL variant CLIM 2 from Digitool. It did cost extra.</span><br style="font-family: SFMono-Regular; font-size: 11px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: SFMono-Regular; font-size: 11px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">From what I remember, this version is owned by Alice Hartley. The MCL version of CLIM 2</span><br style="font-family: SFMono-Regular; font-size: 11px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: SFMono-Regular; font-size: 11px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">hasn't been ported to CCL, at least I know no version of it.</span></div></blockquote></div><br class=""><div class="">Was it not part of the MCL release as Open Source?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Was Alice the final owner of Digitool, Inc. and its assets? Has anyone spoken to her recently?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I’ve actually looked around to try to find out who owns the Digitool intellectual property, with the goal of getting earlier releases of MCL distributable (as well as any sources for them that may still exist), but I haven’t been able to find much.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Heck, even the pre-5.2 source repository for MCL is lost now, unless someone can engage with Google to recover it, or unless someone managed to grab it using git-svn before Google Code closed down. (Since the svn repo wasn’t converted to hg, but kept in place as a new hg repository was created for 5.2+, only the hg repo is downloadable from the Google Code Archive site. Better than nothing, especially since it still has the Fred code, but I was hoping for history too…)</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""> -- Chris</div><div class=""><br class=""></div></body></html>