<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class=""><div class="">Dear all</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">The outside in view of CCL from somebody not using CCL anymore other than through applications built with it (AgentCubes) is not too great. Perhaps the CCL community does not care about this, but the curb appeal of CCL, judged by the current version of CCL in the App store, is tanking. This is really a shame as CCL, before Mojave, got great reviews but now this:</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><img apple-inline="yes" id="82BFA8D6-93DA-4D23-893B-E4EB1F9475A1" width="890" height="220" src="cid:F34D3A81-C296-4BEA-8606-AA2D7A356DFE@adm.ds.fhnw.ch" class=""><br class=""><div><br class=""></div></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div class="">Going a bit deeper the version described as “current release” is 1.11.5</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">This release brings the 1.11 branch up-to-date with current OS releases, and fixes numerous bugs.</div></blockquote><div class=""><div class="release-header" style="box-sizing: border-box; caret-color: rgb(36, 41, 46); color: rgb(36, 41, 46); font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, "Segoe UI", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif, "Apple Color Emoji", "Segoe UI Emoji", "Segoe UI Symbol"; font-size: 14px;"><div class="d-flex flex-items-start" style="box-sizing: border-box; align-items: flex-start !important; display: flex !important;"><div class=""><span style="font-size: 16px;" class=""><br class=""></span></div></div></div></div></div><div class="">Well, this is clearly not true anymore as the current version of MacOS is Mojave. Also, version 1.11.1 was from March 3, 2016. The “current” release, more than 3 years later, is 1.11.5? I know that there are some suggested fixes and there is even a 1.12 dev version somewhere but over all one gets a pretty bad impression of the state of CCL. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">While most CCL developers build their own version of CCL I urge Clozure Associates and the CCL community to update the CCL App in the Apple store.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">all the best, Alex (ducking, assuming upset emails, about how terrible Mojave, Apple, etc. is, are about to hit me)</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><br class=""><div class="">
<span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; line-height: normal; border-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none;"><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; " class=""><div class=""><div style="font-size: 12px; margin: 0px; " class=""><font face="Helvetica" size="3" class="">Prof. Alexander Repenning</font></div><div style="font-size: 12px; margin: 0px; " class=""><br class="khtml-block-placeholder"></div><div style="font-size: 12px; margin: 0px; " class="">University of Colorado</div><div style="font-size: 12px; margin: 0px; " class="">Computer Science Department</div><div style="font-size: 12px; margin: 0px; " class="">Boulder, CO 80309-430</div></div><div class=""><br class=""></div></div></span><br class="Apple-interchange-newline">
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