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<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Hi there<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">boy that blows… I would be quite interest to hear about these exact reasons. Presumably, they are identical for each App built with CCL which would be a shame. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">dang, Alex<br class=""><div class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On May 3, 2019, at 12:17 PM, Bruce O'Neel <<a href="mailto:bruce.oneel@pckswarms.ch" class="">bruce.oneel@pckswarms.ch</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Hi,<br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I'm sure someone better informed will speak up, but, a new version was submitted that works fine in Mojave but Apple rejected it. I'm not remembering the exact reason but I think it could be reduced down to "we've changed the rules, again, and what was ok before is no longer ok, and no we will not grandfather a new version of an App that was just perfectly fine before."<br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">cheers<br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">bruce</div><div id="editorUserSignature" style="display:none;" class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><i class="">03 May 2019 11:10 Alexander Repenning <<a href="mailto:alexander.repenning@Colorado.EDU" class="">alexander.repenning@Colorado.EDU</a>> wrote:</i><br class=""></div><blockquote class="infmailquote"><div class=""><div class="">Dear all<br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">The outside in view of CCL from somebody not using CCL anymore other than through applications built with it (AgentCubes) is not too great. Perhaps the CCL community does not care about this, but the curb appeal of CCL, judged by the current version of CCL in the App store, is tanking. This is really a shame as CCL, before Mojave, got great reviews but now this:<br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><PastedGraphic-1.png><br class=""></div><div class=""> <br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div class="">Going a bit deeper the version described as “current release” is 1.11.5<br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">This release brings the 1.11 branch up-to-date with current OS releases, and fixes numerous bugs.<br class=""></div></blockquote><div class=""><div class="release-header" style="box-sizing: border-box; caret-color: rgb(36, 41, 46); color: rgb(36, 41, 46); font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, "Segoe UI", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif, "Apple Color Emoji", "Segoe UI Emoji", "Segoe UI Symbol"; font-size: 14px;"><div class="d-flex flex-items-start" style="box-sizing: border-box; align-items: flex-start !important; display: flex !important;"><div class=""><span class="size" style="font-size:16px"></span><br class=""></div></div></div></div></div><div class="">Well, this is clearly not true anymore as the current version of MacOS is Mojave. Also, version 1.11.1 was from March 3, 2016. The “current” release, more than 3 years later, is 1.11.5? I know that there are some suggested fixes and there is even a 1.12 dev version somewhere but over all one gets a pretty bad impression of the state of CCL. <br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">While most CCL developers build their own version of CCL I urge Clozure Associates and the CCL community to update the CCL App in the Apple store.<br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">all the best, Alex (ducking, assuming upset emails, about how terrible Mojave, Apple, etc. is, are about to hit me)<br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class=""><div style="font-size: 12px; margin: 0px;" class=""><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; line-height: normal; border-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none;">Prof. Alexander Repenning</span><br class=""></div><div style="font-size: 12px; margin: 0px;" class=""><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; line-height: normal; border-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none;"></span><br class=""></div><div style="font-size: 12px; margin: 0px;" class=""><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; line-height: normal; border-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none;">University of Colorado</span><br class=""></div><div style="font-size: 12px; margin: 0px;" class=""><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; line-height: normal; border-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none;">Computer Science Department</span><br class=""></div><div style="font-size: 12px; margin: 0px;" class=""><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; line-height: normal; border-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none;">Boulder, CO 80309-430</span><br class=""></div></div><div class=""><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; line-height: normal; border-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none;"></span><br class=""></div></div><div class=""><br class=""></div></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><><br class=""></div></blockquote><div class=""><br class=""></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""><div class="">
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