<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">I have good news and bad news …<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">First, the good news — My M1 mini arrived early!</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Now, the bad news — CCL does not work under Rosetta. Rosetta terminates CCL complaining about our use of the INT instruction. We use that instructions to communicate between Lisp and the kernel.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I will now try to figure out if this can be fixed.</div><div class=""><br class=""><div class="">
<div class=""> - Gary</div><div class=""><br class="khtml-block-placeholder"></div>
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<div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Nov 18, 2020, at 2:24 PM, Gary Palter <<a href="mailto:Palter@clozure.com" class="">Palter@clozure.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">We do not yet know if CCL will run on the M1 Macs under Rosetta. My M1 mini is scheduled to arrive next week and I will test CCL as soon as it arrives. (If it doesn’t work, I will try to fix it.)<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">A couple of us at Clozure have had access to Apple’’s Developer Transition Kit which is a prototype Apple silicon Mac. However, as a prototype, it has hardware limitations which prevent CCL from running under Rosetta. Apple claims that those limitations do not exist in the shipping systems. But, of course, we’ll find out once I get my machine.<br class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">One last note …</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">If you want to rebuild CCL on Big Sur, you’ll need to ensure that your copy includes the commit <a href="https://github.com/Clozure/ccl/commit/553c0f25f38b2b0d5922ca7b4f62f09eb85ace1c" class="">553c0f2</a> which fixes a bug that prevents the kernel from loading any images.</div><div class=""><br class=""><div class="">
<div class=""> - Gary</div><div class=""><br class="khtml-block-placeholder"></div>
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<div class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Nov 18, 2020, at 1:42 PM, mikel evins <<a href="mailto:mevins@me.com" class="">mevins@me.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">I should probably mention that it’s on an Intel CPU. I don’t have an M1 yet.<br class=""><div class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Nov 18, 2020, at 12:34 PM, Bruce O'Neel <<a href="mailto:bruce.oneel@pckswarms.ch" class="">bruce.oneel@pckswarms.ch</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Thanks!</div><div id="editorUserSignature" style="display:none;" class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><i class="">18 November 2020 19:21 mikel evins <<a href="mailto:mevins@me.com" class="">mevins@me.com</a>> wrote:</i><br class=""></div><blockquote class="infmailquote"><div class="">I just did a quick cursory check, and my local install of ccl 1.12 seems to run fine on Big Sur. I also tried (require :cocoa) and it built and started the Cocoa IDE. I frobbed around a little and things mostly seemed to work.<br class=""></div><div class=""> <br class=""></div><div class=""> It’s not an in-depth test, I know, but maybe it’ll be of some help.<br class=""></div><div class=""> <br class=""></div><div class=""> > On Nov 18, 2020, at 12:15 PM, Bruce O'Neel wrote:<br class=""></div><div class=""> ><br class=""></div><div class=""> > Hi all,<br class=""></div><div class=""> ><br class=""></div><div class=""> > Does anyone have any experience about CCL on Big Sur/Intel? Does it work like Catalina? Better? Worse? Does the GUI work as well<br class=""></div><div class=""> ><br class=""></div><div class=""> > How about CCL on Big Sur/Apple M1? Yes I know that CCL is not ARMv8 yet, but, how does rosetta deal with CCL? And the GUI, does that work also?<br class=""></div><div class=""> ><br class=""></div><div class=""> > Thanks. My Macs are now old enough that only one of them can go to Big Sur and that is my main Mac. I don't want to find out after the upgrade that CCL doesn't work.<br class=""></div><div class=""> ><br class=""></div><div class=""> > cheers<br class=""></div><div class=""> ><br class=""></div><div class=""> > bruce<br class=""></div><div class=""> > _______________________________________________<br class=""></div><div class=""> > Openmcl-devel mailing list<br class=""></div><div class=""> > <a href="mailto:Openmcl-devel@clozure.com" class="">Openmcl-devel@clozure.com</a><br class=""></div><div class=""> > <a href="https://lists.clozure.com/mailman/listinfo/openmcl-devel" class="">https://lists.clozure.com/mailman/listinfo/openmcl-devel</a><br class=""></div><div class=""> <br class=""></div></blockquote></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div>_______________________________________________<br class="">Openmcl-devel mailing list<br class=""><a href="mailto:Openmcl-devel@clozure.com" class="">Openmcl-devel@clozure.com</a><br class=""><a href="https://lists.clozure.com/mailman/listinfo/openmcl-devel" class="">https://lists.clozure.com/mailman/listinfo/openmcl-devel</a><br class=""></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></div></div>_______________________________________________<br class="">Openmcl-devel mailing list<br class=""><a href="mailto:Openmcl-devel@clozure.com" class="">Openmcl-devel@clozure.com</a><br class="">https://lists.clozure.com/mailman/listinfo/openmcl-devel<br class=""></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></body></html>