<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Good to know. I, too have an M1 mini on the way, but it has not arrived, yet. If there are things to test, I’ll be happy to do it, once it arrives, though maybe another more or less identical machine is not the most interesting test target.<br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Nov 20, 2020, at 7:31 PM, Gary Palter <<a href="mailto:palter@clozure.com" class="">palter@clozure.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">I have good news and bad news …<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">First, the good news — My M1 mini arrived early!</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Now, the bad news — CCL does not work under Rosetta. Rosetta terminates CCL complaining about our use of the INT instruction. We use that instructions to communicate between Lisp and the kernel.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I will now try to figure out if this can be fixed.</div><div class=""><br class=""><div class="">
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<div class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Nov 18, 2020, at 2:24 PM, Gary Palter <<a href="mailto:Palter@clozure.com" class="">Palter@clozure.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">We do not yet know if CCL will run on the M1 Macs under Rosetta. My M1 mini is scheduled to arrive next week and I will test CCL as soon as it arrives. (If it doesn’t work, I will try to fix it.)<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">A couple of us at Clozure have had access to Apple’’s Developer Transition Kit which is a prototype Apple silicon Mac. However, as a prototype, it has hardware limitations which prevent CCL from running under Rosetta. Apple claims that those limitations do not exist in the shipping systems. But, of course, we’ll find out once I get my machine.<br class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">One last note …</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">If you want to rebuild CCL on Big Sur, you’ll need to ensure that your copy includes the commit <a href="https://github.com/Clozure/ccl/commit/553c0f25f38b2b0d5922ca7b4f62f09eb85ace1c" class="">553c0f2</a> which fixes a bug that prevents the kernel from loading any images.</div><div class=""><br class=""><div class="">
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<div class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Nov 18, 2020, at 1:42 PM, mikel evins <<a href="mailto:mevins@me.com" class="">mevins@me.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">I should probably mention that it’s on an Intel CPU. I don’t have an M1 yet.<br class=""><div class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Nov 18, 2020, at 12:34 PM, Bruce O'Neel <<a href="mailto:bruce.oneel@pckswarms.ch" class="">bruce.oneel@pckswarms.ch</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Thanks!</div><div id="editorUserSignature" style="display:none;" class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><i class="">18 November 2020 19:21 mikel evins <<a href="mailto:mevins@me.com" class="">mevins@me.com</a>> wrote:</i><br class=""></div><blockquote class="infmailquote"><div class="">I just did a quick cursory check, and my local install of ccl 1.12 seems to run fine on Big Sur. I also tried (require :cocoa) and it built and started the Cocoa IDE. I frobbed around a little and things mostly seemed to work.<br class=""></div><div class=""> <br class=""></div><div class=""> It’s not an in-depth test, I know, but maybe it’ll be of some help.<br class=""></div><div class=""> <br class=""></div><div class=""> > On Nov 18, 2020, at 12:15 PM, Bruce O'Neel wrote:<br class=""></div><div class=""> ><br class=""></div><div class=""> > Hi all,<br class=""></div><div class=""> ><br class=""></div><div class=""> > Does anyone have any experience about CCL on Big Sur/Intel? Does it work like Catalina? Better? Worse? Does the GUI work as well<br class=""></div><div class=""> ><br class=""></div><div class=""> > How about CCL on Big Sur/Apple M1? Yes I know that CCL is not ARMv8 yet, but, how does rosetta deal with CCL? And the GUI, does that work also?<br class=""></div><div class=""> ><br class=""></div><div class=""> > Thanks. My Macs are now old enough that only one of them can go to Big Sur and that is my main Mac. I don't want to find out after the upgrade that CCL doesn't work.<br class=""></div><div class=""> ><br class=""></div><div class=""> > cheers<br class=""></div><div class=""> ><br class=""></div><div class=""> > bruce<br class=""></div><div class=""> > _______________________________________________<br class=""></div><div class=""> > Openmcl-devel mailing list<br class=""></div><div class=""> > <a href="mailto:Openmcl-devel@clozure.com" class="">Openmcl-devel@clozure.com</a><br class=""></div><div class=""> > <a href="https://lists.clozure.com/mailman/listinfo/openmcl-devel" class="">https://lists.clozure.com/mailman/listinfo/openmcl-devel</a><br class=""></div><div class=""> <br class=""></div></blockquote></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div>_______________________________________________<br class="">Openmcl-devel mailing list<br class=""><a href="mailto:Openmcl-devel@clozure.com" class="">Openmcl-devel@clozure.com</a><br class=""><a href="https://lists.clozure.com/mailman/listinfo/openmcl-devel" class="">https://lists.clozure.com/mailman/listinfo/openmcl-devel</a><br class=""></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></div></div>_______________________________________________<br class="">Openmcl-devel mailing list<br class=""><a href="mailto:Openmcl-devel@clozure.com" class="">Openmcl-devel@clozure.com</a><br class=""><a href="https://lists.clozure.com/mailman/listinfo/openmcl-devel" class="">https://lists.clozure.com/mailman/listinfo/openmcl-devel</a><br class=""></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></body></html>