<div dir="auto"><div>> the ccl releases back through 1.2 are to be found at</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"> > <a href="https://dydra.com/data/CCL" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">https://dydra.com/data/CCL</a></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">> the same could be done for all mcl releases, if there is interest and clozure is not averse.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">My particular interest is pre-CLOS MCL, because I want to play with Object Lisp and the IDE. MACL 1.3 is probably the best bet for that purpose, and it's already available at <a href="https://macintoshgarden.org/apps/macintosh-allegro-common-lisp">https://macintoshgarden.org/apps/macintosh-allegro-common-lisp</a></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Historical archives of other MCL versions would definitely be interesting for the future. I'm sure there are even more people interested in 2.0+. I can't speak for all Clozure folks, but I bet everyone would support the idea.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">You're right about <a href="http://clozure.com">clozure.com</a>. There's not a lot there. It would be nice if the emails keep forwarding. I'd be happy to take over the domain name and setup email forwarding of the existing email addresses. Maybe put up a tombstone website with a few links. I'd hate to see it become something annoying. <br><br><div class="gmail_quote" dir="auto"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Mar 5, 2022, 1:58 PM James Anderson <<a href="mailto:anderson.james.1955@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">anderson.james.1955@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">good afternoon ;<br>
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> On 2022-03-04, at 14:53:26, Jeremy Jones <<a href="mailto:jaj@clozure.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">jaj@clozure.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> <br>
> Hi Tim!<br>
> <br>
> Congrats on getting the classic Mac. I've been thinking about ancient MCL too. I sure wish I saved stuff, especially hardcopies of sources.<br>
> <br>
> If anyone does have the old floppies, one could use this approach to make disk images:<br>
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it would appear that i have a set of pre-release 6 disks.<br>
they have not seen a drive in thirty years and i have no idea how they would behave.<br>
i should have others as well as cds, but their location is not obvious.<br>
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the ccl releases back through 1.2 are to be found at<br>
<br>
<a href="https://dydra.com/data/CCL" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://dydra.com/data/CCL</a><br>
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the same could be done for all mcl releases, if there is interest and clozure is not averse.<br>
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> <br>
> <a href="https://www.chzsoft.de/site/hardware/preserving-a-floppy-disk-with-a-logic-analyzer/" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.chzsoft.de/site/hardware/preserving-a-floppy-disk-with-a-logic-analyzer/</a><br>
> <br>
> There are also emulators: <br>
> <a href="https://www.emaculation.com/doku.php/news" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.emaculation.com/doku.php/news</a><br>
> <br>
> Anyone else interested in MCL archeology? We could start an online MCL museum with old disk images, repls via browser, etc.?<br>
> <br>
> Anyone have any MCL CDs? Chime in if you want to contribute anything or help with a website. I have some papers that might be of interest. How about a website written in Object Lisp served from Tim's Mac Classic?<br>
> <br>
> Also, Andrew told me that Clozure is looking for someone to take over hosting of <a href="http://clozure.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">clozure.com</a>. We definitely don't want it to go away. <br>
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there is not much visible there.<br>
all of the code is at github.<br>
what would you need to site?<br>
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> <br>
> On Fri, Mar 4, 2022, 12:27 AM Tim McNerney <<a href="mailto:mc@media.mit.edu" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">mc@media.mit.edu</a>> wrote:<br>
> Motivated by my recent purchase of a refurbished Mac Classic (*),<br>
> I am searching for a couple of types of “prehistoric” software. <br>
> 1) 68000 MCL that runs in 4MB of RAM and a tiny B/W screen. (**)<br>
> 2) examples of early Mac apps written in MCL with decent UIs.<br>
> <br>
> (*) With a BlueSCSI SSD instead of a fragile HDD.<br>
> <br>
> Is the rumor true that Coral Software delivered a complete Common Lisp <br>
> compressed onto a single 9cm floppy? (3 1/2”)<br>
> <br>
> (**) I’m not looking for one of these physical floppies. <br>
> 9cm floppies were notorious, even brand new, of not being archival. <br>
> Some sort of disk image would be better. <br>
> <br>
> --Tim<br>
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