[Openmcl-devel] OpenMCL, McCLIM, Beagle, and Bosco...

Brent Fulgham bfulg at pacbell.net
Sun Oct 22 17:40:56 PDT 2006

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I've been playing a bit with OpenMCL and McCLIM (using the CLX  
backend).  Since what I really want is native OS X look and feel, I  
attempted to build the 'Beagle' backend to McCLIM with little luck.   
I noticed that Hemlock and the Lisp listener that come with OpenMCL  
are similar to those included with McCLIM, but it appears they were  
revised to directly use the Cocoa back-end.

This reminded me a bit of Mikel Evin's "Bosco" framework, which  
helped provide a framework for creating Lisp OS X applications.  As I  
mentioned a while ago, the sources don't seem to be available  
anywhere (I still have a tarball of his 0.6 version, but can't find  
his tutorial anywhere).

So, a few questions:

1.  Is there much desire to permit cross-platform Lisp development  
via something like McCLIM, or is it just too limiting to do much of a  
job with it?
2.  Are the Hemlock and other examples in the OpenMCL Cocoa sources  
based on McCLIM programs?  If so, are there a "Rosetta Stone" for  
translating from McCLIM to native Cocoa calls?
3.  Finally, could we host the Bosco sources on OpenMCL's website  
(and perhaps the Clotho sources, too)?


- -Brent

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