[Openmcl-devel] OT: Posting to openmcl-devel via gmane

Bill Clementson billclem at gmail.com
Mon Jan 7 09:33:35 PST 2008

Hi Gary,

Thanks for checking the logs. I did a bit of googling and found this page:

It says (in part): "Some groups are read-only. These are typically
groups for announcements, publication or CVS log messages. Other
groups are non-public. These are mailing lists that don't accept
messages from non-subscribers. If you try to post to either of these
kinds of groups, you'll get a bounce message from Gmane informing you
of this."

So, if openmcl-devel rejects messages from non-subscribers, I would
have thought that I would get a bounce message from Gmane. However, I
don't get a bounce message nor does the message go through.

There is another section on the page that says: "If, however, the
group is neither read-only nor non-public, Gmane will forward the
message to the mailing list (after going through the authorization
process described above). The message still might not be accepted by
the mailing list. This is usually because the list really is
non-public, but isn't marked as such in Gmane. If this happens to you,
please send a short mail stating which group is affected to the Gmane
administrators, and we'll fix the configuration."

This might be the cause of the problem. Maybe openmcl-devel used to
allow non-subscriber posts but was changed to subscriber-only at some
stage. Could you please confirm whether openmcl-devel accepts messages
from non-subscribers?


On Jan 7, 2008 3:22 AM, Gary Byers <gb at clozure.com> wrote:
> I looked at the mail logs on clozure.com, and didn't see any messages
> coming from gmane in the last week or so.  (I suppose that that's
> not really definitive, since I'm not sure whether something submitted
> via gmane would appear to be "from" gmane, but it doesn't appear
> that things are coming from gmane and getting hung up in the
> approval queue on clozure.com.)
> On Sat, 5 Jan 2008, Bill Clementson wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I normally read the mail lists I subscribe to via emacs/gnus/gmane as
> > I prefer to read all list/news via gnus. Sometimes, I will be cc'ed on
> > a list post and will get (and reply to) the email before I see the
> > post on the mailing list; however, most of the time, I read and reply
> > via my newsreader. Luckily, most of the mailing lists I read
> > (including openmcl-devel) are available via gmane. If I reply to a
> > mailing list post that I read via gmane, one of three things normally
> > happens:
> >
> > 1. If it's the first time that I've posted a message to that gmane
> > group, I get an email asking me to confirm that I am me and that I do
> > want to post.
> > 2. If I've posted previously to that group, my post just goes through
> > and appears on both the mailing list and gmane.
> > 3. Sometimes the mailing list will reject posts from gmane and I'll
> > get an email to that effect.
> >
> > In the past week, I've posted 3 separate messages to openmcl-devel via
> > gmane.lisp.openmcl.devel but done of them have appeared on
> > openmcl-devel (nor do they appear on gmane.lisp.openmcl.devel). So,
> > none of the 3 things I've listed above is happening when I post to
> > gmane.lisp.openmcl.devel. Is anyone successfully posting to
> > gmane.lisp.openmcl.devel? If so, do you have any idea why my posts
> > might be getting "lost"?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Bill Clementson
> > _______________________________________________
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> > Openmcl-devel at clozure.com
> > http://clozure.com/mailman/listinfo/openmcl-devel
> >
> >

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