[Openmcl-devel] OT: Posting to openmcl-devel via gmane

[Gary Byers]

openmcl-devel doesn't accept messages from non-subscribers (spammers
tend not to subscribe to mailing lists.)

It does accept messages from the address 
"glod-openmcl-devel-3" at "gmane.org", which is/was the address used
by the gmane gateway.

Since nothing from that address was in the logs on clozure.com, I'd
assume that that means that either:

- the gateway isn't working and posting through gmain doesn't cause
   mail from the above address to be sent to openmcl-devel

- the gateway was changed to use some other address which isn't
   subscribed.

I assume that a changed subscription address would have also been
something @ gmane.org, and since I didn't see any mail from gmane
it seems more likely that it's the former problem.

On Mon, 7 Jan 2008, Bill Clementson wrote:

> Hi Gary,
>
> Thanks for checking the logs. I did a bit of googling and found this page:
> http://gmane.org/post.php
>
> It says (in part): "Some groups are read-only. These are typically
> groups for announcements, publication or CVS log messages. Other
> groups are non-public. These are mailing lists that don't accept
> messages from non-subscribers. If you try to post to either of these
> kinds of groups, you'll get a bounce message from Gmane informing you
> of this."
>
> So, if openmcl-devel rejects messages from non-subscribers, I would
> have thought that I would get a bounce message from Gmane. However, I
> don't get a bounce message nor does the message go through.
>
> There is another section on the page that says: "If, however, the
> group is neither read-only nor non-public, Gmane will forward the
> message to the mailing list (after going through the authorization
> process described above). The message still might not be accepted by
> the mailing list. This is usually because the list really is
> non-public, but isn't marked as such in Gmane. If this happens to you,
> please send a short mail stating which group is affected to the Gmane
> administrators, and we'll fix the configuration."
>
> This might be the cause of the problem. Maybe openmcl-devel used to
> allow non-subscriber posts but was changed to subscriber-only at some
> stage. Could you please confirm whether openmcl-devel accepts messages
> from non-subscribers?
>
> Thanks,
> Bill
>
> On Jan 7, 2008 3:22 AM, Gary Byers <gb at clozure.com> wrote:
>> I looked at the mail logs on clozure.com, and didn't see any messages
>> coming from gmane in the last week or so.  (I suppose that that's
>> not really definitive, since I'm not sure whether something submitted
>> via gmane would appear to be "from" gmane, but it doesn't appear
>> that things are coming from gmane and getting hung up in the
>> approval queue on clozure.com.)
>>
>>
>> On Sat, 5 Jan 2008, Bill Clementson wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I normally read the mail lists I subscribe to via emacs/gnus/gmane as
>>> I prefer to read all list/news via gnus. Sometimes, I will be cc'ed on
>>> a list post and will get (and reply to) the email before I see the
>>> post on the mailing list; however, most of the time, I read and reply
>>> via my newsreader. Luckily, most of the mailing lists I read
>>> (including openmcl-devel) are available via gmane. If I reply to a
>>> mailing list post that I read via gmane, one of three things normally
>>> happens:
>>>
>>> 1. If it's the first time that I've posted a message to that gmane
>>> group, I get an email asking me to confirm that I am me and that I do
>>> want to post.
>>> 2. If I've posted previously to that group, my post just goes through
>>> and appears on both the mailing list and gmane.
>>> 3. Sometimes the mailing list will reject posts from gmane and I'll
>>> get an email to that effect.
>>>
>>> In the past week, I've posted 3 separate messages to openmcl-devel via
>>> gmane.lisp.openmcl.devel but done of them have appeared on
>>> openmcl-devel (nor do they appear on gmane.lisp.openmcl.devel). So,
>>> none of the 3 things I've listed above is happening when I post to
>>> gmane.lisp.openmcl.devel. Is anyone successfully posting to
>>> gmane.lisp.openmcl.devel? If so, do you have any idea why my posts
>>> might be getting "lost"?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Bill Clementson
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>>> http://clozure.com/mailman/listinfo/openmcl-devel
>>>
>>>
>>
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