[Openmcl-devel] Mac App store: will CCL apps fly?

Bruce O'Neel ecl at pckswarms.ch
Sun Oct 31 08:59:09 PDT 2010


Hmm, Apple might.

I've talked to some of the Squeak folks and while the contacts were behind the 
scenes, there were discussions that eventually got Squeak back on iOS devices:


No downloadable code, of course, so some features have to be turned off.



On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 10:10:08AM -0400, Andrew Shalit wrote:
> On Oct 26, 2010, at 12:37 AM, peter wrote:
> > Given how important CCL is to us (and will be to Apple once we can deliver our apps via their store), might Apple be able to pass judgement on CCL's purity/compliance now, hence leave us with our own walled garden inside CCL. Ie. within CCL we'd be safe knowing that we couldn't break any rules re. illegal instructions, if we only used CCL (meaning pure lisp as opposed to CCL environment or API). Hence one test of all of CCL rather than every app having to be tested in this regard and being subject to the whims of Apple testers. I can't see how it could be done, but a "Verified as pure CCL" sticker might actually help progress pass the guard hounds at the Apple door. So could Clozure ask apple to check CCL for quarantine clearance?
> Based on past history, there is zero chance Apple will do this.  They didn't return Novell's phone calls when the ability to use Monotouch for iOS was in doubt.  They aren't going to give us any official blessing.
> On the other hand, I think it would be a worthwhile experiment to write a little app in CCL and submit it to the Mac App and see what happens.  I would not submit CCL itself; it's not a typical "app," the UI isn't fully polished, etc.  It could have more problems than a simpler app written in CCL would have.  But I think it would be great to have someone submit a little app written in CCL.
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