[Openmcl-devel] How about Git?
Gary Byers
gb at clozure.com
Mon Nov 30 10:45:40 PST 2015
in 1993, my boss was excited to get a shiny new Solaris box and asked me
to try to get gcc
running on it. gcc sources were freely available, but (unlike earlier
SunOS versions Solaris
did not bundle a C compiler, rendering those sources less useful than
they would otherwise
have been.
CCL is mostly written in CCL, and you need a recent version of CCL to
bootstrap a new version.
whether one does
git clone-or-whatever some-url to get sources
git something different to get platform-specific
binaries into the the same place
doesn't seem very difficult, but neither did using a vcs and tar files.
I was wrong about that.
On 11/30/2015 09:47 AM, Dmitry Igrishin wrote:
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> 2015-11-30 19:20 GMT+03:00 Gary Byers <gb at clozure.com
> <mailto:gb at clozure.com>>:
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>
> On 11/30/2015 08:29 AM, Stelian Ionescu wrote:
>> If you want to keep the master copy in SNV and mirror to git,
>> SubGit can do that but mapping externals to submodules is not
>> supported: http://www.subgit.com/remote-book.html chapter 9.
>> If you want to keep the master copy in git and access it through
>> SVN, Github supports that:
>> https://help.github.com/articles/support-for-subversion-clients/.
>> Again, mapping submodules to externals is not supported.
>> That said, as far as I understand it, there are two reasons why
>> binaries are bundles with the sources:
>> 1) for easy distribution of released binaries together with the
>> code so that those who only use releases can also M-. (or
>> equivalent) without hassles.
>> 2) for easy bootstrap because of compiler and/or ABI(such as fasl
>> format) changes within a release.
>
> Several years ago this was essentially how CCL was distributed -
> one checked out sources from CVS and a
> a matching tarball via FTP or equivalent, and that was it. At the
> time, there were two possible choice of
> tarballs., one for 32-bit PPC Linux and another for 32-bit PPC Darwin.
>
>
> Some of the smartest people that I've ever known were very
> confused by this, and I think that having
> a single way for users to obtain a consistent set of sources and
> binaries is very important. SVN offers
> this via "external properties", which are otherwise a mess. If
> Git does as well, I have not seen anyone
> describe the mechanism.
>
>
> I don't otherwise care whether one uses "svn co something" or "git
> clone something", but I would
> not want to expect users to have to revert back to what didn't
> work well long ago.
>
> I don't know about CCL, but the GCC source distribution comes with a
> simple
> download_prerequisites shell script which downloads via wget MPFR,
> GMP, MPC libraries
> before building GCC. This works fine for many years. So, why not use
> this approach with CCL?
> There are "hooks" system in the Git, which are event-based. It's
> possible to
> run the script for download actual binary files after git clone or git
> merge or git pull
> operations (post-checkout and post-merge hooks).
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