[Openmcl-devel] CLIM2 on CCL

[Craig Lanning]

That's an interesting question.

As you mentioned, the LICENSE file doesn't say directly, but I have
seen comments other places "that the code has not been updated to work
in other Lisp" environments, so that would indicate to me that they
understand that for anyone to make use of it in "source or binary form"
some changes will have to be made so that it can work in a specific
Lisp.

I'll look and see if I can find someone to contact at Franz.  Maybe
they can update the LICENSE file with language that would make it more
clear what they intend.

Craig

On Mon, 2016-07-25 at 17:49 +0200, Rainer Joswig wrote:
> Does the license allow derived versions? That's not clear to me.
> It talks about "Redistribution and use in source and binary forms".
> 
> https://github.com/franzinc/clim2/blob/master/LICENSE
> 
> > 
> > Am 25.07.2016 um 17:30 schrieb Craig Lanning <craig.t.lanning at gmail
> > .com>:
> > 
> > Just recently, I found out that Franz, Inc. had released their
> > CLIM2
> > source code used in Allegro CL to GitHub
> > (https://github.com/franzinc/clim2).  I have forked it (https://git
> > hub.
> > com/craigl64/clim2) and started trying to get it to compile in ccl.
> > Hence my question a couple of weeks ago about Platform Specific
> > GUI.
> > 
> > I received an answer, but have not gotten far enough to make use of
> > it.
> > 
> > I am excited about this version of CLIM because I have built clim
> > based
> > interfaces before, but was only able to run them in LispWorks CLIM
> > or
> > Symbolics CLIM.  I tried to use McCLIM, but found that it didn't
> > work
> > the same way that Symbolics and LispWorks did.  Since Franz was one
> > of
> > the original developers (along with Symbolics and Harliquin) of the
> > CLIM II Specification, I am hoping that this clim implementation is
> > very similar, if not identical, to that used by Symbolics and
> > Harliquin
> > (now LispWorks).
> 
> > 
> > I am targetting ccl because the ccl documentation talked about
> > getting
> > to platform specific graphical tookkits like cocoa/carbon,
> > gtk2/gnome,
> > win32/win64 and I am about to develop a CLIM based application that
> > I
> > need to run on MacOSX, Linux, and Windows.  I also like that if I
> > can
> > build the application in ccl, I can build both 32-bit and 64-bit
> > versions on all three platforms.
> 
> The difficult part is to develop useful backends for macOS.
> That's tough.
> 
> > 
> > 
> > I have not pushed any of my changes back to the GitHub repo in my
> > account, yet.  I was trying to wait until I got it to compile.
> > 
> > I have run into a few issues.  One may be a side effect of how
> > clim2
> > was originally set up to build.  I may need to reorganize the
> > sequence
> > of how it gets built.
> > 
> > I will post additional messages to this list for the issues that I
> > have
> > run into so that they can be discussed individually.  This message
> > was
> > more of a kind of status report so that people would understand
> > better
> > why I asked that question a couple of weeks ago.
> > 
> > Craig Lanning
> > 
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