[Openmcl-devel] Is CCL dead?

Alexander Repenning alexander.repenning at Colorado.EDU
Fri May 3 02:10:46 PDT 2019


Dear all

The outside in view of CCL from somebody not using CCL anymore other than through applications built with it (AgentCubes) is not too great. Perhaps the CCL community does not care about this, but the curb appeal of CCL, judged by the current version of CCL in the App store, is tanking. This is really a shame as CCL, before Mojave, got great reviews but now this:




Going a bit deeper the version described as “current release” is 1.11.5

> This release brings the 1.11 branch up-to-date with current OS releases, and fixes numerous bugs.

Well, this is clearly not true anymore as the current version of MacOS is Mojave. Also, version 1.11.1 was from March 3, 2016. The “current” release, more than 3 years later, is 1.11.5? I know that there are some suggested fixes and there is even a 1.12 dev version somewhere but over all one gets a pretty bad impression of the state of CCL. 

While most CCL developers build their own version of CCL I urge Clozure Associates and the CCL community to update the CCL App in the Apple store.


all the best,  Alex  (ducking, assuming upset emails, about how terrible Mojave, Apple, etc. is, are about to hit me)


Prof. Alexander Repenning

University of Colorado
Computer Science Department
Boulder, CO 80309-430



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