[Openmcl-devel] M1 port: Call for funding

[Tim McNerney]

Thanks for the gdb advice. I agree, a “vanilla” debugger will be easier for all involved.

I am “a Mac person” but, at the risk of religious ire, my plan is to port to Linux first. If you disagree for technical reasons, let me know. I own a “maxed out” late 2013 MacBook Pro, I can’t afford to buy an M1 for me and my intern, plus donations would be better spent on labor. 

--Tim

> On Jan 2, 2024, at 03:09, R. Matthew Emerson <rme at acm.org> wrote:
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>> On Jan 1, 2024, at 5:50 AM, Tim McNerney <mc at media.mit.edu> wrote:
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>> Yes! I would enthusiastically attend a “just bump the fasl version number” (i.e. null upgrade) bootstrapping class.
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>> Modifying gdb so that it recognizes Lisp objects could help quite a bit (e.g. headers, type bits, etc). When I was at Harlequin, I modified gdb so it better displayed Dylan stack frames (and hid internal ones), and that wasn’t such a heavy lift, even for someone who’d never hacked gdb before.
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> The strategy we’ve used to date is to implement a printer for lisp objects in C. See the files like lisp-kernel/x86_print.c (and ppc_print.c, etc.).
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> Then, you put something like the following in your .gdbinit:
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> define pl
> call print_lisp_object($arg0)
> end
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> There’s a .gdbinit in lisp-kernel/linuxx8664/.gdbinit that might be interesting to look at.
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> This approach gets you pretty far, and you don’t have to modify the debugger source code.
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> Old tips: https://trac.clozure.com/ccl/wiki/CclUnderGdb
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> Of course, Apple’s provided debugger is now lldb.  It used to be possible to install gdb on an Intel-based Mac, but I don’t know if gdb has been made to work with Apple silicon Macs. (A quick web search makes me think it probably hasn't.)
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