[Openmcl-devel] Clozure CL is healthy? -- Success!

Toomas Altosaar toomas.altosaar at gmail.com
Thu Sep 2 09:25:46 PDT 2021 

Excellent, many thanks Myra!
Thanks for also stating the hardware and OS versions in your instructions.
I'll try this out as soon as possible.

Toomas

On 2.09.2021, at 17:55, Myra Jean Prelle wrote:

> I tried do a write up about the steps I took.  If you haven’t tried already to make the CCL app, see if this writeup helps.  If you find a better way, maybe you can add suggestions that reflects your own experience.
> 
> <ccl_app_create_1sep2021>
> 
> 
>> On Sep 2, 2021, at 2:08 AM, Toomas Altosaar <toomas.altosaar at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Great going Myra that you got it up and running!
>> I’ll use this mail thread as installation instructions for myself.
>> 
>>> On 2. Sep 2021, at 1.44, Myra Jean Prelle <mjp32 at comcast.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thank you, your suggestion solved my problem.
>>> 
>>> As you suggested, I got darwin86 file itself by going to  https://github.com/Clozure/ccl/releases/download/v1.12/darwinx86.tar.gz
>>> in a browser, and it downloaded the darwin86 file
>>> 
>>> kumquat-2:ccl-dev myra$ tar -xf ../darwinx86.tar 
>>> 
>>> kumquat-2:darwinx8664 myra$ make clean
>>> 
>>> kumquat-2:darwinx8664 myra$ make
>>> 
>>> All that seemed to work.  Then I didn’t know how to start lisp.  In an old email from R. Matthew Emerson from 3/1/19, I found:
>>> 
>>>> When you have followed those instructions, start up the lisp from the command-line (via ./dx86cl64 -n) and evaluate (require 'cocoa-application) to build a double-clickable app (it will be named Clozure CL64.app).
>>> 
>>> 
>>> So I did that, and it worked.  Then my Mac security objected to this exotic application that it hadn’t blessed.  When I calmed that down, Success!
>>> 
>>> CCL is free software.  It is distributed under the terms of the Apache
>>> Licence, Version 2.0.
>>> ? (print 'hello)
>>> 
>>> HELLO 
>>> HELLO
>>> ? 
>>> 
>>> Thank you all very much for your help,
>>> Myra
>>> 
>>>> On Sep 1, 2021, at 2:16 PM, Bruce O'Neel <bruce.oneel at pckswarms.ch> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> HI,
>>>> 
>>>> Your error is that last line from curl about a bad file descriptor because it could not connect to GitHub.com.
>>>> 
>>>> Try running the curl command again and see if it downloads.
>>>> 
>>>> If not you can go to that URL in a web browser and download it that way.
>>>> 
>>>> cheers
>>>> 
>>>> bruce
>>>> 
>>>> On 2021-09-01T19:46:22.000+02:00, Myra Jean Prelle <mjp32 at comcast.net> wrote:
>>>> Hi CCl folks
>>>> 
>>>> I tried following the instructions from:  https://github.com/Clozure/ccl/releases
>>>> but I’m having a problem:
>>>> 
>>>> kumquat-2:lisp_ccl myra$ git clone https://github.com/Clozure/ccl.git ccl-dev
>>>> Cloning into 'ccl-dev'...
>>>> remote: Enumerating objects: 31789, done.
>>>> remote: Counting objects: 100% (138/138), done.
>>>> remote: Compressing objects: 100% (108/108), done.
>>>> remote: Total 31789 (delta 59), reused 67 (delta 30), pack-reused 31651
>>>> Receiving objects: 100% (31789/31789), 46.11 MiB | 47.03 MiB/s, done.
>>>> Resolving deltas: 100% (22959/22959), done.
>>>> kumquat-2:lisp_ccl myra$ 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> kumquat-2:lisp_ccl myra$ curl -L -O https://github.com/Clozure/ccl/releases/download/v1.12/darwinx86.tar.gz
>>>>   % Total    % Received % Xferd  Average Speed   Time    Time     Time  Current
>>>>                                  Dload  Upload   Total   Spent    Left  Speed
>>>>   0     0    0     0    0     0      0      0 --:--:--  0:00:01 --:--:--     0
>>>> curl: (7) Failed to connect to github.com port 443: Bad file descriptor
>>>> kumquat-2:lisp_ccl myra$ 
>>>> 
>>>> I looked in the ccl_dev directory, & there are a lot of good things there.  But 
>>>> 
>>>> kumquat-2:ccl-dev myra$ tar xf ../darwinx86.tar.gz
>>>> tar: Error opening archive: Failed to open '../darwinx86.tar.gz'
>>>> 
>>>> Am I doing something wrong?
>>>> 
>>>> Thank you for your help,
>>>> myra
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> _______________________________________________ Openmcl-devel mailing list Openmcl-devel at clozure.com https://lists.clozure.com/mailman/listinfo/openmcl-devel
>>>>> On Aug 30, 2021, at 5:26 PM, Joakim Sandgren <info at joakimsandgren.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> It does work fine.
>>>>> In the instructions (very good) I would add (require ‘cocoa-application) at the end. No ? (Am I missing something ?).
>>>>> Now I had to take that from memory…
>>>>> Otherwise very good,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>> Joakim 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Le 30 août 2021 à 18:46, info <info at joakimsandgren.com> a écrit :
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> absolutely!
>>>>>> /j
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Le 30 août 2021 à 18:34, Andrew Shalit <alms at clozure.com> a écrit :
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I hope so, but I haven’t tried it recently.  I’m just getting my head (and my hardware) back into CCL.  If you have a chance to try it, please let us know how it goes, and I’ll do the same.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Andrew
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Aug 30, 2021, at 12:23 PM, Joakim Sandgren <info at joakimsandgren.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>> Does this work on an intel mac with Big Sur ??
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>>> Joakim
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Le 30 août 2021 à 18:12, Andrew Shalit <alms at clozure.com> a écrit :
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hi Myra - 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Thanks for volunteering for this project.  Do you know how to use the Macintosh command line?  If so, the instructions here should be helpful.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/Clozure/ccl/releases/tag/v1.12
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Andrew
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 26, 2021, at 11:33 PM, Myra Jean Prelle <mjp32 at comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Hi CCL folks
>>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>>> I have offered to help Ron with his document.  In addition to reading the document, I would like to help him by checking that all his examples work.  
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> As for checking examples, I haven’t run CCL on my Mac in a while (been playing Python).  I tried CCL from Mac App store, but it crashed immediately.  Does anyone have a set of instructions for setting up CCL on an Intel Mac 2.6 GHz 6-Core Intel Core i7 running Big Sur 11.5.2, so I can test his examples?
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Thank you for your help,
>>>>>>>>>> Myra
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 26, 2021, at 4:17 PM, Ron Garret <ron at flownet.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> An M1 port is in the works. but probably won’t be ready for several months.  The project is just now getting off the ground.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> But your concern is not misplaced.  The CCL community is very small and not growing.  In particular, the number of people who are sufficiently familiar with how it works under the hood to be able to actually do something like the M1 port is very small, certainly less than 10, possibly less than 5.  If we were talking about wildlife they’d be listed as critically endangered.  So for the long run I’m much more worried about generational knowledge transfer than the M1 port.  That will buy some time, but one thing is pretty clear and that is that the Apple platform will forever be a moving target (and it’s not altogether clear to me that it will continue to be one worth shooting at).
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> One thing that I started working on a while back to try to address this problem is an introductory programming book based on CCL.  The beginnings of that project can be found here:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/rongarret/BWFP
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> I abandoned it in part because I tried and failed to recruit someone to be a “beta tester” for the book as I wrote it to make sure that what I was writing would actually be comprehensible to the target audience, and to make sure that all the examples actually worked.  If someone is interested in stepping up to that plate I would consider picking that back up again.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> rg
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 26, 2021, at 10:16 AM, Parksungmin <byulparan at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> CCL has just 7 commit in 2021 (last commit is 15 Jul). it also seems not start to port for Silicon M1.
>>>>>>>>>>>> CCL is my favorite implementation. I'm afraid of the this status.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> When will it be possible to work with CCL in M1 Mac?
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>> Openmcl-devel mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>> Openmcl-devel at clozure.com
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://lists.clozure.com/mailman/listinfo/openmcl-devel
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>> Openmcl-devel mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>> Openmcl-devel at clozure.com
>>>>>>>>>>> https://lists.clozure.com/mailman/listinfo/openmcl-devel
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>> Openmcl-devel mailing list
>>>>>>>>>> Openmcl-devel at clozure.com
>>>>>>>>>> https://lists.clozure.com/mailman/listinfo/openmcl-devel
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>> Openmcl-devel mailing list
>>>>>>>>> Openmcl-devel at clozure.com
>>>>>>>>> https://lists.clozure.com/mailman/listinfo/openmcl-devel
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Openmcl-devel mailing list
>>> Openmcl-devel at clozure.com
>>> https://lists.clozure.com/mailman/listinfo/openmcl-devel
> 

-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <https://lists.clozure.com/pipermail/openmcl-devel/attachments/20210902/8de8cf60/attachment.htm>

More information about the Openmcl-devel mailing list